Quick Modding/Hacking Answers Thread

Yes. Make the critters to set flags on death, and have the same script verify if the all flags are set, then (if they are set), start 2nd wave.

example :

Death script for one of the critters (if there were only 3):
(This is an algorithm, it will not work, flag numbers are random and probably already used)

#0621
<FLJ0536:0631<FL+0523

#0631
<FLJ0325:0641<FL+0523

#0641
<Start second wave (make it change maps after 2 or 3 waves otherwise your TSC file will be too big for the parser).

 

Yes. Make the critters to set flags on death, and have the same script verify if the all flags are set, then (if they are set), start 2nd wave.

example :

Death script for one of the critters (if there were only 3):
(This is an algorithm, it will not work, flag numbers are random and probably already used)

#0621
<FLJ0536:0631<FL+0523

#0631
<FLJ0325:0641<FL+0523

#0641
<Start second wave (make it change maps after 2 or 3 waves otherwise your TSC file will be too big for the parser).

You can do this, if you have ridiculous patience, and you're aware that you might definitely:
A: Overflow the TSC parser, because it can't parse files if they're too long.
B: Go mad, and run out of flags unless you unset them at the start of each wave.
If you do this without ASM, I recommend trying to compress your TSC wherever possible.

Thank you so much you two. Currently trying it the algorithm out, and......it's confusing oh boy....Spent a couple hours breaking my head open. But I have an idea, while it makes it more simplified, I think it's for the better and for the sake of my sanity.
I could have it where the "training starts" it can start with the 1 critter, when that critter dies it'll run the script to spawn 2 more of them. Then if the player kills critter A (the non-run script critter), the player can battle then battle critter B alone, but if the player kills critter B first, 2 more critter spawn making it 3 critters to battle. Which can hopefully give it a little bit of a frantic battle maybe having - 1 - 2 - 2 -4 - 2 - 3 - 5 critters so it can be a little hectic, but considering the critters die easily with the player's current weaponry, I would doubt the player would have much trouble. Your ideas did help me think of something new do when I finally sat on it rather then rip myself up, I do appreciate it!

Edit:

(Skip to 3:01, the text editor won't allow me to have the video start at 3:01)
I was watching this video, I love the mod despite not being able to understand it. The 2nd boss battle is a gauntlet fighting several enemies, in those fights it doesn't matter if you kill enemy 1 or enemy 2, I'm sure the run of death script (if it's the first killed) jumps to the second? Is there a way to better describe it or is the algorithm what was used @GabrielRavier ?

 

The 2nd boss battle is a gauntlet fighting several enemies, in those fights it doesn't matter if you kill enemy 1 or enemy 2, I'm sure the run of death script (if it's the first killed) jumps to the second? Is there a way to better describe it?

For the first part of the boss gauntlet, here's the death scripts for the first two "Ravil" bosses.

#0510
<CNP0510:0004:0000<FLJ0090:0600<FL+0090<END

#0511
<CNP0511:0004:0000<FLJ0090:0600<FL+0090<END

They both share the same flag, meaning it won't be set unless both of them are dead.

 

For the first part of the boss gauntlet, here's the death scripts for the first two "Ravil" bosses.

#0510
<CNP0510:0004:0000<FLJ0090:0600<FL+0090<END

#0511
<CNP0511:0004:0000<FLJ0090:0600<FL+0090<END

They both share the same flag, meaning it won't be set unless both of them are dead.

Ok cool, thank you so much, that helps a ton!

 

The algorithm for the script is pretty simple (the one that runs at an enemy's death) :
1. Make the game remember the enemy died (FL+ specific to that enemy)
2. Branch to the script that checks if all enemies died.

Algorithm for the script that checks if all enemies died :
1. Check if all creatures died (Make a chain of events that only fully run if all the flags are set)
2. If all enemies died, branch to the script that is supposed to run at that point, else just stop the script.

Exemple :

#0900
<FL+5700<EVE0910

#0901
<FL+5701<EVE0910

#0902
<FL+5702<EVE0910

#0903
<FL+5703<EVE0910

#0904
<FL+5704<EVE0910

#0905
<FL+5705<EVE0910

#0906
<FL+5706<EVE0910

#0907
<FL+5707<EVE0910

#0908
<FL+5708<EVE0910

#0909
<FL+5709<EVE0910



#0910
<FLJ0911:5700<END

#0911
<FLJ0912:5701<END

#0912
<FLJ0913:5702<END

#0913
<FLJ0914:5703<END

#0914
<FLJ0915:5704<END

#0915
<FLJ0916:5705<END

#0916
<FLJ0917:5706<END

#0917
<FLJ0918:5707<END

#0918
<FLJ0919:5708<END

#0919
<FLJ0920:5709<END

#0920
<INSERTSUPERFANCYCODEHERE


Also, if you can redo the battle, please unset all flags at the start of the match. Don't use skipflags. They only reset when you completely close the game (Esc-F2 DOES NOT reset them. I learned that the hard way).

 

The algorithm for the script is pretty simple (the one that runs at an enemy's death) :
1. Make the game remember the enemy died (FL+ specific to that enemy)
2. Branch to the script that checks if all enemies died.

Algorithm for the script that checks if all enemies died :
1. Check if all creatures died (Make a chain of events that only fully run if all the flags are set)
2. If all enemies died, branch to the script that is supposed to run at that point, else just stop the script.

Exemple :

#0900
<FL+5700<EVE0910

#0901
<FL+5701<EVE0910

#0902
<FL+5702<EVE0910

#0903
<FL+5703<EVE0910

#0904
<FL+5704<EVE0910

#0905
<FL+5705<EVE0910

#0906
<FL+5706<EVE0910

#0907
<FL+5707<EVE0910

#0908
<FL+5708<EVE0910

#0909
<FL+5709<EVE0910



#0910
<FLJ0911:5700<END

#0911
<FLJ0912:5701<END

#0912
<FLJ0913:5702<END

#0913
<FLJ0914:5703<END

#0914
<FLJ0915:5704<END

#0915
<FLJ0916:5705<END

#0916
<FLJ0917:5706<END

#0917
<FLJ0918:5707<END

#0918
<FLJ0919:5708<END

#0919
<FLJ0920:5709<END

#0920
<INSERTSUPERFANCYCODEHERE


Also, if you can redo the battle, please unset all flags at the start of the match. Don't use skipflags. They only reset when you completely close the game (Esc-F2 DOES NOT reset them. I learned that the hard way).

Thank you so much. To make sure I do <FL- to reset the flags correct?
Edit: Alright I just tried to implement it, but i'm when I tried:
I did this:
#0401
<FLJ0403:0403<FLA<FL+0405<FL+0403<EVE0402
#0402
<FLA<FLJ0404:0404<FL+0406<FL+0404<FLA<MS3WAVE 1!<NOD<CLO<END
#0403
<FL+5700<EVE0405
#0404
<FL+5701<EVE0405
#0405
<FLJ0406:5700<END
#0406
<FLJ0420:5701<END

I have critter A: event 401/entity ID 405
and critter B: event 402/entity ID 406
I have them both set to 0A00 (So they appear with a flag (405/406) and they run the scripts on death)
but when I start the "program" they don't appear......am I spawning the critters wrong or is there an actual way to fix this?

 

... am I spawning the critters wrong or is there an actual way to fix this?

You are probably spawning them wrong. You should just place them somewhere outside the player's view then teleport them with a
<MNP

(description from the TSC guide at the adress http://www.cavestory.org/guides/tsc.txt) :
<MNPx:y:z:w Move NPc Move npc X to coords Y:Z facing direction W

The reason is probably (I'm not sure, read that somewhere in a guide some time ago) that spawned NPCs get the smallest available entity ID.

 

You are probably spawning them wrong. You should just place them somewhere outside the player's view then teleport them with a
<MNP

(description from the TSC guide at the adress http://www.cavestory.org/guides/tsc.txt) :
<MNPx:y:z:w Move NPc Move npc X to coords Y:Z facing direction W

The reason is probably (I'm not sure, read that somewhere in a guide some time ago) that spawned NPCs get the smallest available entity ID.

Alright I finally got them to appear in game thanks to the MNP command. The only problem now is when they appear, they don't die:

I so sorry for taking up everybody's time with these issues, I've tried to make sure they're critters, I checked the NPC table and properties but this issue persists......
I've thought it was because they were supposed to have 1000 + they're actual desired hp like for the guadis but after looking at the image that's not the case......

 

Alright I finally got them to appear in game thanks to the MNP command. The only problem now is when they appear, they don't die:

I so sorry for taking up everybody's time with these issues, I've tried to make sure they're critters, I checked the NPC table and properties but this issue persists......
I've thought it was because they were supposed to have 1000 + they're actual desired hp like for the guadis but after looking at the image that's not the case......

At that point when they die they will run an event, and you have to pretend kill them (play a sound effect and CNP them to smoke). Pixel never intended for something like this so you have to work around the weird "run event on death" function.

 

At that point when they die they will run an event, and you have to pretend kill them (play a sound effect and CNP them to smoke). Pixel never intended for something like this so you have to work around the weird "run event on death" function.

Yes! FINALLY! I got everything I needed to work!
Thanks so much guys, everybody who contributed helped in a major way, I can finally do a small arena. Thanks again!

 

im trying to make two teleporters in 1 map teleport to each other but it keeps glitching out
sometimes the blue teleporting thing won't show, sometimes you, sometimes everything, sometimes no sound and I just can't get it to work

someone please give me step by step instructions I've tried a lot of things
I have 3 sprites with events for each (teleporter base, something below it, and something to the top left of it)
each has a different event

I'm using the <MOV command, not <TRA

 

You'd want to do as the player goes through the teleport animation; have a <WAIXXXX command, and then have a <FONXXXX:YYYYY (to have it focus on NPC X for Y amount of ticks), 16 is fast, 32 is medium speed, 64 is slow, 1 is instant, and 0 crashes the game, you would want the <FON command to focus on the teleporter. Then make sure "reanimate" the player back in with the <ANP command and then make sure you're doing <FOM character at the end so the camera's not stuck on the teleporter NPC, the same tick rules apply for <FOM, in that case, it's best to use 0001 tick because of how instant it is.

 

You'd want to do as the player goes through the teleport animation; have a <WAIXXXX command, and then have a <FONXXXX:YYYYY (to have it focus on NPC X for Y amount of ticks), 16 is fast, 32 is medium speed, 64 is slow, 1 is instant, and 0 crashes the game, you would want the <FON command to focus on the teleporter. Then make sure "reanimate" the player back in with the <ANP command and then make sure you're doing <FOM character at the end so the camera's not stuck on the teleporter NPC, the same tick rules apply for <FOM, in that case, it's best to use 0001 tick because of how instant it is.

oh i think i wasn't animating the teleporter again...

whoops

THANKS!

 

since it's been a while since i put something else here I hope I don't have to combine them again... (and this is unrelated to the previous thing)

I was looking through the characters and the npc things and I noticed that in the NpcCent theres a character (i think used in the new jenkasnightmare) but I never remember seeing it
Why is it there??

also in the "NpcRegu" theres a picture of the doctor and one of them has his hand up and not really sure what he's doing..

Not sure if you can see that but it kind of looks like that
(colors are inverted not sure why)

 

since it's been a while since i put something else here I hope I don't have to combine them again... (and this is unrelated to the previous thing)

I was looking through the characters and the npc things and I noticed that in the NpcCent theres a character (i think used in the new jenkasnightmare) but I never remember seeing it
Why is it there??

also in the "NpcRegu" theres a picture of the doctor and one of them has his hand up and not really sure what he's doing..
View attachment 4188
Not sure if you can see that but it kind of looks like that
(colors are inverted not sure why)

It's of him holding the Red Crystal.

 

It's of him holding the Red Crystal.

OOOHH that makes so much more sense!
it looked kind of like a hidden easter egg of a rude gesture from the doctor...



EDIT:
another question, is there any place I can copy what each tile does in a tile set? like it's tile #41 or tile #01 and I can copy and paste that instead of clicking EVERY SINGLE ONE...?

 

I don't think there is such a feature for Booster's Lab. That does sound like it could be a suggestion for Noxid, though!

 

Good idea.

 

what music did jenkas nightmare replace? the one by the zarrotsu guy
i know they had that wind fortress music at one point and i know you need to replace songs

also what was the ending to that beginning one just a curious question while im here

 

I don't exactly know. The best way to check is probably to open both exes (original and jenka) with 7z (as archive), and then copy paste the ORGs into the same folder and see which have different sizes.