The Mother of All Cave Story Questions

May 17, 2009 at 6:51 PM
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If we're going to have magic lightbulbs why not just magic glowing rock?
 
May 17, 2009 at 7:17 PM
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Captain Fabulous said:
Then how come there's light in the Start Point and beyond? It's obvious he never went there, or he would know about you.
Start Point is a part of the First Cave, which is simply lighted in its entirety.


Captain Fabulous said:
She doesn't need lights for the whole thing, like the chamber that leads to Omega.
There's an old bar at the Sand Zone's top an a teleporter underneath. And a robot as big as Omega needs maintenance.


Captain Fabulous said:
You'd think anything native to the island would have night-vision, seeing as they're underground.
I'm sure you need at least some light for night-vision to work. Creatures that live in total darkness generally don't use vision at all, relying instead on other senses.


Captain Fabulous said:
And the flashlights never ran out of batteries. They have perpetual energy generators in Cave Story? Might explain where all these lights are getting their electricity from.
He said the explorers did not use flashlights, just that they set up some lights in there. It's just logical that they set up a permanent lighting there, since they intended to stay on the Island for a long time.


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If we're going to have magic lightbulbs why not just magic glowing rock?
Because there are no magic lightbublbs.
 
May 17, 2009 at 7:19 PM
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But those lightblubs are powered by magically made solar panels!
 
May 17, 2009 at 7:21 PM
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Care to explain your outrageous claim?
 
May 17, 2009 at 8:04 PM
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Why are you calling it outrageous? You agreed with it somewhere in this thread.
 
May 17, 2009 at 8:44 PM
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MetaSeraphim said:
Why are you calling it outrageous? You agreed with it somewhere in this thread.
Uh, yeah. Why did I agree with magically created solar panels in the first place?
 
May 17, 2009 at 10:28 PM
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Because Jenka made and installed the solar panels.
 
May 18, 2009 at 12:21 AM
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T-Jack said:
Start Point is a part of the First Cave, which is simply lighted in its entirety.

If the hermit lit up the entire cave, why didn't he discover you? He doesn't give any sign of recognizing you.

T-Jack said:
There's an old bar at the Sand Zone's top an a teleporter underneath. And a robot as big as Omega needs maintenance.

If by "maintain" you mean "destroy" then I agree.

T-Jack said:
I'm sure you need at least some light for night-vision to work. Creatures that live in total darkness generally don't use vision at all, relying instead on other senses.

True. But then the Labyrinth would be quite dim.

T-Jack said:
He said the explorers did not use flashlights, just that they set up some lights in there. It's just logical that they set up a permanent lighting there, since they intended to stay on the Island for a long time.

What the hell are these permanent lights powered by? Same for the First Cave too.
 
May 18, 2009 at 1:00 PM
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Captain Fabulous said:
If the hermit lit up the entire cave, why didn't he discover you? He doesn't give any sign of recognizing you.
What if he lit the cave more than 10 years ago? Or what if somebody else did it?


Captain Fabulous said:
If by "maintain" you mean "destroy" then I agree.
Ah, good.


Captain Fabulous said:
True. But then the Labyrinth would be quite dim.
Not necessarily.


Captain Fabulous said:
What the hell are these permanent lights powered by? Same for the First Cave too.
Last Cave: Probably some kind of electrical generator.
First Cave: Power source located in the Hermit's house, devised by himself.
 
May 18, 2009 at 8:47 PM
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Unless the generator in the Last Cave is solar or wind powered, it's a magic generator.
 
May 18, 2009 at 9:20 PM
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Captain Fabulous said:
Unless the generator in the Last Cave is solar or wind powered,
Why not?


Captain Fabulous said:
it's a magic generator.
Why so?
 
May 18, 2009 at 9:34 PM
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Because! Magic explains everything!
 
May 18, 2009 at 9:43 PM
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Magic?

MetaSeraphim said:
Because! Magic explains everything!
*Curt nod*
 
May 18, 2009 at 10:10 PM
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I never really thought that all of Mimiga Island would have a power grid, but I guess that's the only way all those electronics would work. I wonder what it's powered by? I suppose the humans that lived there once might have installed solar cells or windmills, before the war.
 
May 18, 2009 at 10:16 PM
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Eh?

Captain Fabulous said:
I never really thought that all of Mimiga Island would have a power grid, but I guess that's the only way all those electronics would work. I wonder what it's powered by? I suppose the humans that lived there once might have installed solar cells or windmills, before the war.
Whaddya mean "Before the war"?
The humans weren't even on the Island before the war, they sent all of the robots first, and they started the war....
...Weren't they? O.o;
 
May 18, 2009 at 10:42 PM
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No. I remember Jenka saying something along the lines of "The robots slaughtered the Mimgas and the humans who tried to protect them." I'll look it up, actually.

EDIT: From the script:
"Countless Mimigas perished
at their hands.<NOD
As did the humans who
tried to protect them.<NOD<CLRCornered, the Mimigas
finally ingested the
forbidden red flowers,<NOD
and in their murderous
rage began to strike
back against the robots."
 
May 18, 2009 at 10:46 PM
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Captain Fabulous said:
No. I remember Jenka saying something along the lines of "The robots slaughtered the Mimgas and the humans who tried to protect them." I'll look it up, actually.
Code:
Countless Mimigas perished
at their hands.<NOD
As did the humans who
tried to protect them.<NOD<CLRCornered, the Mimigas
finally ingested the
forbidden red flowers,<NOD
But does it mean that the Humans had lived on that Island, or that they had followed the Robots there?
I really doubt Humans were there before the War, but I wouldn't be surprised if they had set up bases and such during it. {Actually, that's an idea in my mod..}

EDIT:
Oh, nice timing on your edit...
>.>;
 
May 19, 2009 at 12:04 AM
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VoidMage_Lowell said:
But does it mean that the Humans had lived on that Island, or that they had followed the Robots there?
Most likely Human explorers with a bad case of wrong place, wrong time. You can see all the equipment they left behind all across the island. You can't reason with standard-issue soldier robots to spare the Mimigas, in fact if you defended the Mimigas then they will assume that you are an obstacle to be dealt with and *ahem* get rid of the obstacle.
 
May 19, 2009 at 12:27 AM
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Hmm?

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Most likely Human explorers with a bad case of wrong place, wrong time. You can see all the equipment they left behind all across the island. You can't reason with standard-issue soldier robots to spare the Mimigas, in fact if you defended the Mimigas then they will assume that you are an obstacle to be dealt with and *ahem* get rid of the obstacle.
Explorers, yeah that sounds likely. But Humans living on the Island? I don't think that happened...
Explorer idea makes even more sense, since the War was several hundred years ago...
 
May 19, 2009 at 12:34 AM
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Heh

JacobX891 said:
Um... Several hundred?
No. You're mistaken.
Oh. Haha.
The stacked-ness of the script writing made me mix the lines "Not so long ago" with "Hundreds of Robots
"...
So I kinda read "Hundeds of years ago", as my brain filled in non-existing lines...

Oops....^.^;
 
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