Jan 20, 2013 at 12:44 PM
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So as I scourged YouTube the other day, I happened to find a video showing off a new little game called..."Nothing". Honestly, finding it was a lucky break, since this game is about as mysterious as things on the internet get : I searched the entire internet for a page, any page, that at least mentions the title with Google and found zilch. Likewise for the Forums and YouTube. The video itself was uploaded back in July but has next to no views.
Here's the video:
It has pretty much all the info you need to know, but for those who can't watch it(or are too lazy >_>), the plot is basically that a cute little dog thing wakes up in a cave. It's actually a member of a really old guardian race called the Pohoja, and seeing none of its(his?) kind after waking from the long nap, the guy heads out of the little cave to try to figure out what happened.
Though it sounds similiar to Cave Story, it's really nothing alike. The main character is pretty fast, and mainly attacks the creatures outside with a melee claw swipe. He can also transform into a dragon, which allows him to glide and shoot fireballs, and also a bear of some sorts, focusing on fast, damaging melee attacks.
The Pohoja protagonist can also utilize magic. So far there are around 5 spells, each using up magic and each for different purposes. You don't start out with any of the magic/techniques/transformations, obviously. You'd apparently find these as upgrades, much like Cave Story's weapons and health/missile expansions. I say "apparently" because I haven't actually found any of the things that would grant you these in-game - I found a few suspicious statues, but the game has no "interact" button as far as I've seen
(No-actually, it's up.) I have found the fruit that grants you more HP, though.(EDIT:This be false, matey-you can find most of these, but they're very well-hidden. More info in the Edits at the bottom.)
Thankfully, this is redundant because "Nothing" has an in-game debug menu of sorts that can give you the upgrades. 'Tis very helpful
"Nothing" is still very much a demo, and I have no idea where I can find more info on it. The game has no actual cutscenes and the third form of the doggy thing looks slightly unfinished, plus I haven't found any bosses. Granted, I haven't explored too far yet. On the flip side, the environments are really big, the music is beautiful, and the graphics are very pretty.
Here's the description and the download:
__________________________
Do you like Cave Story?
PLAY THE DEMO http://www.l-ames.com/logan/no-last.zip
UNDER DEVELOPMENT
———————————
So yeah. This game is a really hidden gem: divine music(though there's not too many songs), awesome graphics, great gameplay (though enemies can be annoying), some really mysterious atmosphere...
And a magical doggy as the main character.(EDIT:Other awesome things include being able to look at the camera, diverse enemies, and shaking off water with the "jump" button, which is super cute). Go play it NAOW. Give some feedback, ya?
EDIT NUMERO DOS: I found after an hour or so of playing, that you CAN interact with those statues. You need a special item to do so. However, I can't find the item itself :/.Found a "Power Spirit" that is rarely dropped by enemies. No idea what it does.
P.S : I'm glad to be the first to bring this to the attentions of the good men, women, teenagers, adults, fantasy creatures, animals, machines, foodstuffs, and objects of the forums.
UPDATE: Encased in a spoiler because, A) I finally figured out how to make those
and B)My god, this post is long enough. >_<
That's about it. Bye~
UPDATE THE SECOND: Kudos to X-Calibar for being a boss and finding all sorts of things,and Anuken for his strange(but useful!)Notepad-Hacking idea.
Man I love this game. Every time I go back to it I find something new
UPDATE: l33t haxor skillz +3!
I've figured out an incredibly easy way to "hack" the game without any arcane resources for the hacking-challenged. Very simplistic, but it gets the job done.
Recommendation:PLAY THE GAME NORMALLY FIRST, UNTIL THE VERY END. "Hacking" might ruin the experience for you.
Epic finds include an early Home Cave, various unfinished maps, and other things. Oh, I'm so proud of myself ^_^
Details here:
Noxid, MagicDoors, and other such Hacking masters reserve full rights to laugh at me for figuring out how to hack-ish "Nothing" with Notepad

Here's the video:
It has pretty much all the info you need to know, but for those who can't watch it(or are too lazy >_>), the plot is basically that a cute little dog thing wakes up in a cave. It's actually a member of a really old guardian race called the Pohoja, and seeing none of its(his?) kind after waking from the long nap, the guy heads out of the little cave to try to figure out what happened.
Though it sounds similiar to Cave Story, it's really nothing alike. The main character is pretty fast, and mainly attacks the creatures outside with a melee claw swipe. He can also transform into a dragon, which allows him to glide and shoot fireballs, and also a bear of some sorts, focusing on fast, damaging melee attacks.
The Pohoja protagonist can also utilize magic. So far there are around 5 spells, each using up magic and each for different purposes. You don't start out with any of the magic/techniques/transformations, obviously. You'd apparently find these as upgrades, much like Cave Story's weapons and health/missile expansions. I say "apparently" because I haven't actually found any of the things that would grant you these in-game - I found a few suspicious statues, but the game has no "interact" button as far as I've seen

Thankfully, this is redundant because "Nothing" has an in-game debug menu of sorts that can give you the upgrades. 'Tis very helpful

"Nothing" is still very much a demo, and I have no idea where I can find more info on it. The game has no actual cutscenes and the third form of the doggy thing looks slightly unfinished, plus I haven't found any bosses. Granted, I haven't explored too far yet. On the flip side, the environments are really big, the music is beautiful, and the graphics are very pretty.

Here's the description and the download:
__________________________
Do you like Cave Story?

PLAY THE DEMO http://www.l-ames.com/logan/no-last.zip
UNDER DEVELOPMENT
———————————
So yeah. This game is a really hidden gem: divine music(though there's not too many songs), awesome graphics, great gameplay (though enemies can be annoying), some really mysterious atmosphere...
And a magical doggy as the main character.(EDIT:Other awesome things include being able to look at the camera, diverse enemies, and shaking off water with the "jump" button, which is super cute). Go play it NAOW. Give some feedback, ya?
EDIT NUMERO DOS: I found after an hour or so of playing, that you CAN interact with those statues. You need a special item to do so. However, I can't find the item itself :/.Found a "Power Spirit" that is rarely dropped by enemies. No idea what it does.
P.S : I'm glad to be the first to bring this to the attentions of the good men, women, teenagers, adults, fantasy creatures, animals, machines, foodstuffs, and objects of the forums.

UPDATE: Encased in a spoiler because, A) I finally figured out how to make those

Alright. So as I said on page 2 of this topic, I redacted my statement up there that there are no bosses or abilities to collect. I've found those things on my save file. And since I've been doing a "legit" marathon exploration venture, I've got plenty of stuff to share:
★ You know how you can get Leskin (whatever) blossoms that would give you another magic spell? Well, you can grab more than 1 to upgrade the spell, causing it to use up more mana, but also increasing its attributes( For example, Fire releases more homing balls). Also, Water is not just a utility magic: after pressing "magic" (S by default) to generate the Air Tank-ish water barrier, you can push "Bark" to release a watery blast around you. This is so far the only use for barking besides making the Kitty-dog look cool.
★Speaking of magic, I finally found some for realz: a Fire Blossom somewhere in a lower section of the Hills, if I remember correctly.
★ Found a way to get Bound without cheating. It involves Lotsa maneuvering downwards in Hills to find a Boss: a huge Armadillo thing. It's fairly easy to defeat if you're careful and know what you're doing. After it's defeated, you go up a conveniently appearing set of platforms to reach a fruit that grants you Bound. If you already have Bound when you reach it, though, the game may freeze, so find this without the skill.
★The Tree is HUUUUGE. I have yet to explore it all, but I will soon.
★ You know how you can get Leskin (whatever) blossoms that would give you another magic spell? Well, you can grab more than 1 to upgrade the spell, causing it to use up more mana, but also increasing its attributes( For example, Fire releases more homing balls). Also, Water is not just a utility magic: after pressing "magic" (S by default) to generate the Air Tank-ish water barrier, you can push "Bark" to release a watery blast around you. This is so far the only use for barking besides making the Kitty-dog look cool.
★Speaking of magic, I finally found some for realz: a Fire Blossom somewhere in a lower section of the Hills, if I remember correctly.
★ Found a way to get Bound without cheating. It involves Lotsa maneuvering downwards in Hills to find a Boss: a huge Armadillo thing. It's fairly easy to defeat if you're careful and know what you're doing. After it's defeated, you go up a conveniently appearing set of platforms to reach a fruit that grants you Bound. If you already have Bound when you reach it, though, the game may freeze, so find this without the skill.
★The Tree is HUUUUGE. I have yet to explore it all, but I will soon.
That's about it. Bye~
UPDATE THE SECOND: Kudos to X-Calibar for being a boss and finding all sorts of things,and Anuken for his strange(but useful!)Notepad-Hacking idea.
★More magic facts! We already know that Water Shields can detonate with Bark, but I figured out how to generate the fire shield seen in the trailer! Just press Magic and Bark at the same time to make a useful fire shield. If it doesn't work the first time, keep trying: it's kinda iffy.
★I've been annoyed recently with Waterway's lack of passibility, so I got the idea of randomly Notepad hacking in the hopes of making it explorable.
That...didn't work. But it did get me thinking about the many unaccesable test levels, and with some very rudimentary hacking, I've been trying to replace stuff to access the levels. It's been discouraging, but also kinda fun, and it's not like we have any •actual• hackers lining up to help.
★Fun Fact: deleting a level and entering it will leave the protagonist falling in an endless black void, with the boss music playing. Surprising - I thought hills, home cave, or silence would be "default" music.
★There is another section of Home Cave, reachable by utilizing the glide of Form 2. It's pretty standard, with 2 interesting things: a Leskin Magic Fruit that gives 6 mana, and an exit at the bottom that's coded to not let you enter. Here's a list of unenterable exits:
Redirect: Before Ocean Temple, Waterway, Home Cave Upper
Blocked:Shore, Home Cave Lower,
★There's more to Ocean Temple than I thought, but you need to use the Dragon form to progress(hint:Fireballs). Going all the way to the end gets you a very long corridor and a special area that effectively marks the very end of the demo until further notice. Go see for yourself!
★You can get the Dragon form by defeating a large bird at the top of Tree! We still haven't found a way to get the bear form as of yet...and for that matter, Pohoja Blessing, so you have to use Debug Transform to change back again. >_>
★I've been annoyed recently with Waterway's lack of passibility, so I got the idea of randomly Notepad hacking in the hopes of making it explorable.
That...didn't work. But it did get me thinking about the many unaccesable test levels, and with some very rudimentary hacking, I've been trying to replace stuff to access the levels. It's been discouraging, but also kinda fun, and it's not like we have any •actual• hackers lining up to help.
★Fun Fact: deleting a level and entering it will leave the protagonist falling in an endless black void, with the boss music playing. Surprising - I thought hills, home cave, or silence would be "default" music.
★There is another section of Home Cave, reachable by utilizing the glide of Form 2. It's pretty standard, with 2 interesting things: a Leskin Magic Fruit that gives 6 mana, and an exit at the bottom that's coded to not let you enter. Here's a list of unenterable exits:
Redirect: Before Ocean Temple, Waterway, Home Cave Upper
Blocked:Shore, Home Cave Lower,
Hidden text highlight (or click) to view:
"Pohojan Paradise"(ccity in code)
★There's more to Ocean Temple than I thought, but you need to use the Dragon form to progress(hint:Fireballs). Going all the way to the end gets you a very long corridor and a special area that effectively marks the very end of the demo until further notice. Go see for yourself!

★You can get the Dragon form by defeating a large bird at the top of Tree! We still haven't found a way to get the bear form as of yet...and for that matter, Pohoja Blessing, so you have to use Debug Transform to change back again. >_>
Man I love this game. Every time I go back to it I find something new

UPDATE: l33t haxor skillz +3!
I've figured out an incredibly easy way to "hack" the game without any arcane resources for the hacking-challenged. Very simplistic, but it gets the job done.
Recommendation:PLAY THE GAME NORMALLY FIRST, UNTIL THE VERY END. "Hacking" might ruin the experience for you.
Epic finds include an early Home Cave, various unfinished maps, and other things. Oh, I'm so proud of myself ^_^
Details here:
So here's the deal. Simply go into the game's data and find "File1/2/3". Open it up with Notepad.
Huzzah! You get an incredibly easy to use - if simplistic - hacking system.
(I recommend using another file for experimentation, by the way. Files can be changed with Config.exe).
The most important field is Map. Look in the Data and you can find internal names for all of the levels. All you have to do is replace the name that's written there with one you want to start in - for example, replace "hmcave-a" with "homecave". Exactly as it's written, mind you, or the poor Kitty-Pup will start in a glitched collisionless area I call the missingno. map. Missingno. will show up in various maps, presumably deleted ones Logan Ames found no more use for. Or maybe I'm just doin' it wrong
This, of course, means that we now essentially have a warping ability above even Debug Warp. Just remember to File/Save each edit before starting "Nothing",ya? Here's some of the more interesting maps:
★homecave is the simply-named early version of hmcave-a, the Start Point. Features include a lighter palette, a different layout(notably including no access at all to Home Cave Lower, which may have been accessed through a different area or might not have existed at all), and intact exit data!
★fishtest is kinda bizzare. It's a pretty empty test level,entirely underwater. The most notable feature is the GIGANTIC..."FISH". It's a boss that attacks mostly by ramming into you - it looks like fishtest was made to see if the thing works. It sorta does...the thing is, it never dies even when its health bar empties. The room is inescapable, too, so you'll have to Warp out or reset.
★tree-bug is quite interesting. It might be a test room of sorts, but really I have no idea what it's for ^_^;
It's a room in the Forest with a different palette and a whole bunch of enemies and upgrades. Not all the upgrades and not all the enemies, though, so why bother, especially with the Debug menu? It also has TWO bird bosses, but they're low to the ground and go down easy enough. Strangely they still give you the Dragon TF O.o
★I can't remember exactly which one it is at the moment, but the last Shore level is unused. Go check it out
★The Waterway is entirely explorable with hacking!
...but it's a wretched hive full of stupidity, just like a water level should be. √_√
★I'll add in others later when I get my hands on "Nothing" again - 2:00 A.M is not the best time for that *-*
You can also edit health and other stats, enable and disable flags, and maybe other things(It's all Geek to me from that point
). Have fun, and share anything you find, ya?
Huzzah! You get an incredibly easy to use - if simplistic - hacking system.
(I recommend using another file for experimentation, by the way. Files can be changed with Config.exe).
The most important field is Map. Look in the Data and you can find internal names for all of the levels. All you have to do is replace the name that's written there with one you want to start in - for example, replace "hmcave-a" with "homecave". Exactly as it's written, mind you, or the poor Kitty-Pup will start in a glitched collisionless area I call the missingno. map. Missingno. will show up in various maps, presumably deleted ones Logan Ames found no more use for. Or maybe I'm just doin' it wrong

This, of course, means that we now essentially have a warping ability above even Debug Warp. Just remember to File/Save each edit before starting "Nothing",ya? Here's some of the more interesting maps:
★homecave is the simply-named early version of hmcave-a, the Start Point. Features include a lighter palette, a different layout(notably including no access at all to Home Cave Lower, which may have been accessed through a different area or might not have existed at all), and intact exit data!
★fishtest is kinda bizzare. It's a pretty empty test level,entirely underwater. The most notable feature is the GIGANTIC..."FISH". It's a boss that attacks mostly by ramming into you - it looks like fishtest was made to see if the thing works. It sorta does...the thing is, it never dies even when its health bar empties. The room is inescapable, too, so you'll have to Warp out or reset.
★tree-bug is quite interesting. It might be a test room of sorts, but really I have no idea what it's for ^_^;
It's a room in the Forest with a different palette and a whole bunch of enemies and upgrades. Not all the upgrades and not all the enemies, though, so why bother, especially with the Debug menu? It also has TWO bird bosses, but they're low to the ground and go down easy enough. Strangely they still give you the Dragon TF O.o
★I can't remember exactly which one it is at the moment, but the last Shore level is unused. Go check it out

★The Waterway is entirely explorable with hacking!

...but it's a wretched hive full of stupidity, just like a water level should be. √_√
★I'll add in others later when I get my hands on "Nothing" again - 2:00 A.M is not the best time for that *-*
You can also edit health and other stats, enable and disable flags, and maybe other things(It's all Geek to me from that point


