Jun 26, 2023 at 6:17 PM
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So, how the fuck did I make it to 10 years? Lmao. I was certain a couple times I'd never come back, but I still had this 18 year old video game stuck on my mind. So, I thought of doing something special for my 10 year anniversary, and honestly, @SeasonsOfDestiny if you ever bump into this thread, I WANT you to steal this idea. But I'm going to play through my old mods and review them. Because nobody's a bigger critic to someone's works than the person who made said works. And I really think a thread like this from Seasons would be a really great read. I'm also going to throw in some development behind the scenes or talk about parts that probably weren't explained well.
Now, since we're doing this in chronological order, that means we gotta start off with my first mod I posted, Story Changed. Now here's a bit of a problem, I do not have the mod on me. However, I will talk about as much as I remember. Story Changed was actually not my first mod, believe it or not, it was originally a dialogue edit called Abridged Story. Not much was done with it, in fact, I can show a pic of some of the stuff that I also did for it in this thread I made, about cancelled projects as soon as they were started.
Goddamn it sorta jogged my memory of what was going to happen, so Quote had his scarf that you see in most artwork from Nicalis, Sue and Toroko were lovers, Balrog and Puu Black's sprites were swapped, and honestly I'm surprised nobody has ever actually done that, like, I've only seen people ever give Balrog his beta sprites, and that's it. And oh right, I forgot about Curly Pony, lmao. Don't mind that, I was a huge brony back in the day, I still say the fandom died as soon as Twilight grew her wings.Thanks, M.A. Larson. The sprites weren't mine, I stole them right out of Derpibooru, the facepics and the sprites were made by pix3m. There's the credit 10 years later for something that was never even released, lmao.
And now, something that I'm dreading to play and review, CSTSF Mod.
Part 2 of review coming soon!
Now, since we're doing this in chronological order, that means we gotta start off with my first mod I posted, Story Changed. Now here's a bit of a problem, I do not have the mod on me. However, I will talk about as much as I remember. Story Changed was actually not my first mod, believe it or not, it was originally a dialogue edit called Abridged Story. Not much was done with it, in fact, I can show a pic of some of the stuff that I also did for it in this thread I made, about cancelled projects as soon as they were started.
Goddamn it sorta jogged my memory of what was going to happen, so Quote had his scarf that you see in most artwork from Nicalis, Sue and Toroko were lovers, Balrog and Puu Black's sprites were swapped, and honestly I'm surprised nobody has ever actually done that, like, I've only seen people ever give Balrog his beta sprites, and that's it. And oh right, I forgot about Curly Pony, lmao. Don't mind that, I was a huge brony back in the day, I still say the fandom died as soon as Twilight grew her wings.
But now, actually time for Story Changed. Where do I even start? Yes, it was a CSBD, but it was actually sorta intentional. So my original plan for it was for it to go through 5 phases. First phase was just going to be regular cave story, until something goes wrong, like, Quote bumps into me (ew, my old, gross appearance), we both fight, and after defeating me, I tell him there's a whole lot more of the mod that was already added, and he's still going to have to go through them. Then phases 2-3 will be pretty much just custom stages, and TSC. Man, I feel if I were to remake the mod I'll do a much better job at it. And then for phases 4-5, it's going to be ASM hell, or smth. 18-19 year old me had no idea how hard ASM really was. At that point, I had already played some mods, like Sue Story, Jenn's Journey, and WTF Story. And I thought they were pretty good, and for some of them, I noticed there were stuff that you don't typically see in the original game, and I thought that'd be great for near the end of Story Changed. Well, if i ever did the second demo, that is. Which I never did, cuz idk. Poor Serri never realized until it was too late...
So in Story Changed, you go through the First Cave like normal, and you enter the Gunsmith's place, and instead of the Polar Star, you just get the Spur right away. A common trope with most people's first mods, ngl.
Lol, I'm joking, I would never, you would get the Machine Gun instead.Also a common trope.
After you go in Mimiga Village, I can't remember where it is, but I remember putting in a death room similar to the one from WTF Story, but there was a platform on top you're standing on it, it is one block wide, and behind you is a doorway. And ofc if you fall into it, you'll die. But if you go through the door, you'll enter a special room (ooooooh special) and get a life capsule, before going back to Mimiga Village.
I think it's the same room that I decided to put in a fall challenge for the development of the second demo, but I realized it's a bit too... dickish. You avoid spikes to deal with more spikes. And all for what, a fucking Life Capsule? I think as well, where the Reservoir is, there was another doorway above the exit to Mimiga Village, and it will take you to an extra house. The Water Closet.
I'm sure the entrance looked like this...
You know what, I wonder if I posted a fixed version of the original Story Changed demo, because I am starting to remember a thing. So in one of the bookshelves, I remember on one of the bookshelves, if you interact with it, it mentions something about Terri (yes, she's existed since before I even joined the forums), and I remember changing it to something relating to Jesus. Idk why even have a library in the public restroom, anyway? Why even have a whiteboard and a fireplace in the public restroom? I'm sure there's somewhere in the US where there's a public restroom as luxurious as this, but, still.
I wish I saved some screenshots from the old battle with me, I based my appearance off a depiction of how I used to draw myself, I look nothing like it, but that's how I drew myself. In fact, the only remaining evidence that my old sprites of myself even existed was through The Final Level, which I can't wait to talk about when I get there.
Well, after defeating me, you go through this level that looks like it came from Super Mario Bros 3, but it also has Orbinauts from Sonic. Infringement Cave was made just because I wanted to put in a Nintendo reference. And a Sega reference, I guess. Sprites are from their original, respective games, except now that I think of it, I can't remember where the Beezo sprites came from...
And after getting past that, you go through this strange cave, but to your luck, there is civilization in this edited area of the game, called Butternut Town! Unfortunately, Butternut Town was going to be added in the second demo, so the demo just ends in the cave instead.
Aside from the challenge room, only other thing from the second demo I ever worked on was a start to Butternut Town. And let's just say a familiar looking character would be the first person to greet Quote.
So, yeah, Story Changed was my first mod here, and much to DoubleThink's dismay, because he's been collecting all mods for a massive archive he's working on, it is lost to time. I'm p sure i just forgot to back it up when I downgraded my laptop's os back then, which, I can't remember if that was in 2017 or 2018. I can probably name a few who have played it but I doubt they have it on them after all these years. So who even knows if the mod still exists out there?
So in Story Changed, you go through the First Cave like normal, and you enter the Gunsmith's place, and instead of the Polar Star, you just get the Spur right away. A common trope with most people's first mods, ngl.
Lol, I'm joking, I would never, you would get the Machine Gun instead.
After you go in Mimiga Village, I can't remember where it is, but I remember putting in a death room similar to the one from WTF Story, but there was a platform on top you're standing on it, it is one block wide, and behind you is a doorway. And ofc if you fall into it, you'll die. But if you go through the door, you'll enter a special room (ooooooh special) and get a life capsule, before going back to Mimiga Village.
I think it's the same room that I decided to put in a fall challenge for the development of the second demo, but I realized it's a bit too... dickish. You avoid spikes to deal with more spikes. And all for what, a fucking Life Capsule? I think as well, where the Reservoir is, there was another doorway above the exit to Mimiga Village, and it will take you to an extra house. The Water Closet.
I'm sure the entrance looked like this...
You know what, I wonder if I posted a fixed version of the original Story Changed demo, because I am starting to remember a thing. So in one of the bookshelves, I remember on one of the bookshelves, if you interact with it, it mentions something about Terri (yes, she's existed since before I even joined the forums), and I remember changing it to something relating to Jesus. Idk why even have a library in the public restroom, anyway? Why even have a whiteboard and a fireplace in the public restroom? I'm sure there's somewhere in the US where there's a public restroom as luxurious as this, but, still.
I wish I saved some screenshots from the old battle with me, I based my appearance off a depiction of how I used to draw myself, I look nothing like it, but that's how I drew myself. In fact, the only remaining evidence that my old sprites of myself even existed was through The Final Level, which I can't wait to talk about when I get there.
Well, after defeating me, you go through this level that looks like it came from Super Mario Bros 3, but it also has Orbinauts from Sonic. Infringement Cave was made just because I wanted to put in a Nintendo reference. And a Sega reference, I guess. Sprites are from their original, respective games, except now that I think of it, I can't remember where the Beezo sprites came from...
And after getting past that, you go through this strange cave, but to your luck, there is civilization in this edited area of the game, called Butternut Town! Unfortunately, Butternut Town was going to be added in the second demo, so the demo just ends in the cave instead.
Aside from the challenge room, only other thing from the second demo I ever worked on was a start to Butternut Town. And let's just say a familiar looking character would be the first person to greet Quote.
So, yeah, Story Changed was my first mod here, and much to DoubleThink's dismay, because he's been collecting all mods for a massive archive he's working on, it is lost to time. I'm p sure i just forgot to back it up when I downgraded my laptop's os back then, which, I can't remember if that was in 2017 or 2018. I can probably name a few who have played it but I doubt they have it on them after all these years. So who even knows if the mod still exists out there?
And now, something that I'm dreading to play and review, CSTSF Mod.
So, ever thought of replacing game characters? Ever thought of plugging inside jokes in your mod/romhack? Well, this is very such a brand new and original idea, maybe someone should do that but with Cave Story! So, I tried looking rn where the original mention was, I'm sure there have been conceptions of the idea being made as a cs mod much longer ago, but sometime in 2014, @2DBro has thought of doing so, but the mod was never released. And I cannot find the source of that idea, so it's either deleted, or it was mentioned in the original CSTSF Skype group, a place that predated the discord group and in turn, the Cave Story Modding Server. So then I thought "hey, i could capitalize on the idea, and make it myself." And so I did, for two whole demos, and to make things even harder on myself, I not just changed the characters and dialogue, I also decided to change the stage appearances altogether. I must've really hated myself, lmao.
So, besides all the dated stuff, my poor choice in just giving any role of any character to any person in the community, I had thought of making it a tie-in to all Cave Story mods at the time, and while the idea of a mod multiverse has been touched upon numerous times, it never really came into fruition. The closest times have to be CSTSF Mod and The Final Level, which were my mods, and Insiemer's Odyssey, a mod that Cyber/ made for MaGCSL. As for all the dated jokes and references, what do you expect? Except it's even worse because there's also quite the number of references to the Skype group as well. So I'll try my best to explain a lot of stuff, but this is going to be painful and cringeworthy for me as well.
Btw, I wonder who has noticed the edits I made to the DoConfig when they first played the mod... I wish people could modify the other executables again...
Now, this was a needed change to the beginning cutscene, from the first to the second demo, because I released Terri's Night Out (2014) back in December, and my original plan was to make that mod a prequel to CSTSF Mod. Now, because I'm playing the second demo, I feel I should at least mention the changes between the demos, so here's how the intro screen used to look from the original demo.
Okay, and we're already at the most controversial point about the mod. Let's talk about Zazuma. Because I remember all the comments about the sex jokes. Even in the second demo, with me toning him down by a lot, he still sounded overtly horny. Why is Zazuma horny? Thank @sexplosive for that. There was a fanfiction thread, and sexplosive decided to be a troll and make some of the most awful fanfics, one involving Quote, and one involving Sue. And the instigator was Kazuma, or Zazuma in the latter. This has got to be the worst idea I ever put in the mod, and I am sorry for that. Didn't help either when in the first demo, Zazuma sorta became a trigger warning for some individuals, and that was far beyond any intention I had. If you want to see how bad he was, out of morbid curiosity's sake, play the first demo.
Spirit Story reference! Even if it originated on Skype. This has got to be the longest running Skype joke in the community. Aar becoming the save point was referenced in both versions of Terri's Night Out, as well as his own mod and its versions: Video Game.
Btw if you wanna know how to pronounce his name, use it in this context:
Totally not used for suppositories. I hear they can be harmful to you, whether you intend to using it to improve your vitals, or to pleasure yourself.
I mean, what else would you even call this?
God, it's that old??? To the point where people still made illuminati jokes? For context, the character that's in the role of King is @Pummelator, and he had an obsession with illuminati memes back then.
Whyyyyy? I was too late...
So the curiosity killed the cat room, it was a troll death room in the first demo, and you can very easily die by three presses falling at you. It's very well possible to survive the room, just walk to the right, and you can get free exp while killing the pressses. The room ultimately had to be removed because it's an unfair death, and it has no relevance to the actual mod itself.
After interacting with the door, you get this special item called the coupon, which offers a special prize that you can get. I guess I had intended for there to be a means to reach me, or "Mochi", as what I used to be called back in the Skype group, but I have no clue how or where I was going to make it happen. So as of the second demo, it's only a dud and you can just skip that entirely.
Still a better excuse than Jack's. Also hi Terri.
Best in-joke. The fact that Story Changed was never getting an update... :')
I can't remember if this section was going to have a doorway to a room. Why does it lead to fucking nowhere?
Hey guys, what if we changed the amount of bits in Cave Story so it can not only be in 720p widescreen, but it can also be a 3d game, like Mario 64! Cave Story plays like a 16 bit game, but it's on a 32 bit executable, so let's make the game 64 bits to support better graphics!
I... think I was a bit too harsh on Bio back in 2014.
Okay, this was actually pretty funny.
So um, why Isabelle for Misery? Well funnily enough, I was going to have HaydenStudios be Misery, because he's always been a prominent member of the forums, but then I was suggested hey, two characters have a theme tied to each other (Jenka and the Doctor), why not make the role for Misery be given to Doors? And with Doors wanting me to use Isabelle to represent them, because damn, Strawberry Milk as representation? Not a good idea.
So I'm going to be honest here, I did not give a single shit about the graveyard, or the pignons in it. So I just made it a small room.
Now, I actually can't remember who I had planned to be Mr Little in the mod, but the sprites were unmodified so I feel like I forgot about him entirely.
And honestly, I'm going to leave this here, because I kinda have a headache, and even though it seems like I'm not covering much, the more interesting stuff happens in further in the mod, and I'm worried I'm gonna hit the text limit in this post, so expect several double posts from me, lol.
So, besides all the dated stuff, my poor choice in just giving any role of any character to any person in the community, I had thought of making it a tie-in to all Cave Story mods at the time, and while the idea of a mod multiverse has been touched upon numerous times, it never really came into fruition. The closest times have to be CSTSF Mod and The Final Level, which were my mods, and Insiemer's Odyssey, a mod that Cyber/ made for MaGCSL. As for all the dated jokes and references, what do you expect? Except it's even worse because there's also quite the number of references to the Skype group as well. So I'll try my best to explain a lot of stuff, but this is going to be painful and cringeworthy for me as well.
Btw, I wonder who has noticed the edits I made to the DoConfig when they first played the mod... I wish people could modify the other executables again...
Now, this was a needed change to the beginning cutscene, from the first to the second demo, because I released Terri's Night Out (2014) back in December, and my original plan was to make that mod a prequel to CSTSF Mod. Now, because I'm playing the second demo, I feel I should at least mention the changes between the demos, so here's how the intro screen used to look from the original demo.
Okay, and we're already at the most controversial point about the mod. Let's talk about Zazuma. Because I remember all the comments about the sex jokes. Even in the second demo, with me toning him down by a lot, he still sounded overtly horny. Why is Zazuma horny? Thank @sexplosive for that. There was a fanfiction thread, and sexplosive decided to be a troll and make some of the most awful fanfics, one involving Quote, and one involving Sue. And the instigator was Kazuma, or Zazuma in the latter. This has got to be the worst idea I ever put in the mod, and I am sorry for that. Didn't help either when in the first demo, Zazuma sorta became a trigger warning for some individuals, and that was far beyond any intention I had. If you want to see how bad he was, out of morbid curiosity's sake, play the first demo.
Spirit Story reference! Even if it originated on Skype. This has got to be the longest running Skype joke in the community. Aar becoming the save point was referenced in both versions of Terri's Night Out, as well as his own mod and its versions: Video Game.
Btw if you wanna know how to pronounce his name, use it in this context:
Totally not used for suppositories. I hear they can be harmful to you, whether you intend to using it to improve your vitals, or to pleasure yourself.
I mean, what else would you even call this?
God, it's that old??? To the point where people still made illuminati jokes? For context, the character that's in the role of King is @Pummelator, and he had an obsession with illuminati memes back then.
Whyyyyy? I was too late...
So the curiosity killed the cat room, it was a troll death room in the first demo, and you can very easily die by three presses falling at you. It's very well possible to survive the room, just walk to the right, and you can get free exp while killing the pressses. The room ultimately had to be removed because it's an unfair death, and it has no relevance to the actual mod itself.
After interacting with the door, you get this special item called the coupon, which offers a special prize that you can get. I guess I had intended for there to be a means to reach me, or "Mochi", as what I used to be called back in the Skype group, but I have no clue how or where I was going to make it happen. So as of the second demo, it's only a dud and you can just skip that entirely.
Still a better excuse than Jack's. Also hi Terri.
Best in-joke. The fact that Story Changed was never getting an update... :')
I can't remember if this section was going to have a doorway to a room. Why does it lead to fucking nowhere?
Hey guys, what if we changed the amount of bits in Cave Story so it can not only be in 720p widescreen, but it can also be a 3d game, like Mario 64! Cave Story plays like a 16 bit game, but it's on a 32 bit executable, so let's make the game 64 bits to support better graphics!
I... think I was a bit too harsh on Bio back in 2014.
Okay, this was actually pretty funny.
So um, why Isabelle for Misery? Well funnily enough, I was going to have HaydenStudios be Misery, because he's always been a prominent member of the forums, but then I was suggested hey, two characters have a theme tied to each other (Jenka and the Doctor), why not make the role for Misery be given to Doors? And with Doors wanting me to use Isabelle to represent them, because damn, Strawberry Milk as representation? Not a good idea.
So I'm going to be honest here, I did not give a single shit about the graveyard, or the pignons in it. So I just made it a small room.
Now, I actually can't remember who I had planned to be Mr Little in the mod, but the sprites were unmodified so I feel like I forgot about him entirely.
And honestly, I'm going to leave this here, because I kinda have a headache, and even though it seems like I'm not covering much, the more interesting stuff happens in further in the mod, and I'm worried I'm gonna hit the text limit in this post, so expect several double posts from me, lol.
Part 2 of review coming soon!
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