Forum Mod Plot Discussion Topic

Feb 9, 2008 at 9:21 AM
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Okay so I decided to dredge up some initiative from nowhere and start a story-designing thread for the forum mod since otherwise the thread will get too cluttered and also because there seems to be no idea of what to do yet. SO! I propose we discuss various ideas and post various plot outlines in this topic, so that we can all have a good idea of what the mod will be like and how to contrust ourselves in it.

Also I'm going to throw up some guidelines to begin with. I know I haven't been very involved with the project so far but hopefully they will all make sense and I won't overstep my mark...

-I'm pretty sure the general consensus is for this mod to be fairly simplistic plot wise. It does kind of need a plot to hold it together, but nothing that would, let's say, require more than one playthrough to fully understand.

-On that note, I'd prefer it if this is, for the time being, a thread designed merely to ouline what the plot will be like, not who does what and who is good/bad and who wants to be where and who's designing/scripting/spriting/etc; that's what the other thread is for I think >.>;.

-It will not be possible to accept the ideas of every single person, or again, this thing will never get finished. I'm thinking it would be best to choose one person's basic outline, maybe through the form of a vote. Ideas can always be mixed in, but this project needs some legs if it's going to stand.

-An idea that me and SP talked about (albeit very briefly) was for the main character to NOT be anyone from the forums, rather a hypothetical new member who enters into the mod and uses the forum folks as NPC characters. This would help keep things impartial and provide the viewpoint of the forum through someone else's eyes, as well as allow for some unique character development. Not sure about the second slot, perhaps it could be another plot-related character... or perhaps it could be given away as a prize or something :D

-Try to keep it brief and not give away too many details, so that the ending and certain other bits can be a surprise, but do try and explain how you visualize the maps being set out and how they will represent the forums, so folks will have some idea of what it will look like.

That's all I can think of for now, I might update it later or something if people point stuff out. I'll post what I've thought up in a separate post, since I want to get this thread up and I don't want to spend forever typing it <.< And so I say:
LET THE IDEAS FLOW~
 
Feb 9, 2008 at 10:38 AM
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That is a good idea but it would be best if the mod was not about the forum but about the forum members and all the crazy stuff we get into and everything and basing a story around that with any setting you want. The mod should have plenty of humour but also have a plot about forum assassins, slivers, cat girls and a darker purpose.

Hey DB, you don't mind being an evil scientist for the first half of the mod before turning good for the rest do you? :D
 
Feb 9, 2008 at 4:06 PM
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DragonBoots rarely comes on anymore. D:

Kageryushin should be the main bad guy. Hell, he wanted the position, well, requested, so why not give it to him, since most of you guys find him a pain in the ass.

Storyline eh..?

Yeah, I'm with andwhyisit on this one, "the mod was not about the forum but about the forum members and all the crazy stuff we get into and everything and basing a story around that with any setting you want". And DoubleThink, great idea on "the main character to NOT be anyone from the forums, rather a hypothetical new member who enters into the mod and uses the forum folks as NPC characters".

Oh, and I'll think of a storyline later.
 
Feb 9, 2008 at 4:10 PM
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DragonBoots rarely comes on anymore. D:

Kageryushin should be the main bad guy. Hell, he wanted the position, well, requested, so why not give it to him, since most of you guys find him a pain in the ass.

Storyline eh..?

Yeah, I'm with andwhyisit on this one, "the mod was not about the forum but about the forum members and all the crazy stuff we get into and everything and basing a story around that with any setting you want". And DoubleThink, great idea on "the main character to NOT be anyone from the forums, rather a hypothetical new member who enters into the mod and uses the forum folks as NPC characters".

Oh, and I'll think of a storyline later.

---THE ATTACK OF THE FORUM ASSASINS---​

Kageryushin - A forum assasin
Anyone who wants this post - A forum assasin
Random catgirls - Random catgirls
Anyone in this mod - Villagers
Who wants this? - Main character
Who wants this too? - Side character

You can get ideas from the "3 word story-time" and the Inventive imaginary killing fun" threads. =/
 
Feb 9, 2008 at 5:02 PM
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Metalogz, read the first post.
a thread designed merely to ouline what the plot will be like, not who does what and who is good/bad and who wants to be where and who's designing/scripting/spriting/etc
Good day.
 
Feb 9, 2008 at 5:09 PM
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Metalogz said:
---THE ATTACK OF THE FORUM ASSASINS---​
"The revenge of the catgirls"

It's mutch easier to have the "inside joke" element when we don't use the resource that has the word "forum" in it :p. Catgirls could be part of a totally different race which now threaten to take over the world. And the only way to kill them is to talk rubbish (J/K).

Metalogz said:
Kageryushin - A forum assasin
Anyone who wants this post - A forum assasin
Random catgirls - Random catgirls
Anyone in this mod - Villagers
Who wants this? - Main character
Who wants this too? - Side character
Er... the aim of this forum (as in the CS Tribute site forums) is the discussion of how mutch we love Pixel's masterpiece. And since Kageryushin is one of us, he should be one of the "good guys" of the mod.
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You can get ideas from the "3 word story-time" and the Inventive imaginary killing fun" threads. =/
Vawt deh fork??? Those stories suck for a mod, really (of course, that's mainly because I posted in 'em).
 
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I think that the story could be based directly off of Cave Story itself to keep the theme, but with the forum members taking the role of whatever character they most resemble. The story would be massively, drastically, IMMENSLY edited to create absurd, humorous scenarios for why the main character is going where. For instance, why is the character going to the Egg Corridor, or, rather, why is he going to the stage we've based on the Egg Corridor? The story would definitely not be the same as Cave Story itself but would instead somewhat resemble it, specifically its structure, get what I mean? Also, we could manipulate circumstances to make it so that the player would be forced to switch to another character every so often, somewhat like what happened in Xaser’s Schism Mod. This way we would be able to see the game from multiple perspectives.
 
Feb 9, 2008 at 10:05 PM
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Kageryushin said:
I think that the story could be based directly off of Cave Story itself to keep the theme, but with the forum members taking the role of whatever character they most resemble. The story would be massively, drastically, IMMENSLY edited to create absurd, humorous scenarios for why the main character is going where. For instance, why is the character going to the Egg Corridor, or, rather, why is he going to the stage we've based on the Egg Corridor? The story would definitely not be the same as Cave Story itself but would instead somewhat resemble it, specifically its structure, get what I mean? Also, we could manipulate circumstances to make it so that the player would be forced to switch to another character every so often, somewhat like what happened in Xaser’s Schism Mod. This way we would be able to see the game from multiple perspectives.
Good idea, but then who will play the NPCs? (Apart from me of course :p)
 
Feb 9, 2008 at 11:14 PM
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I think that the story could be based directly off of Cave Story itself to keep the theme, but with the forum members taking the role of whatever character they most resemble.
I volunteer to be toroko's replacement =D
 
Feb 10, 2008 at 3:30 AM
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Good idea, but then who will play the NPCs? (Apart from me of course :p)

You know how in Xaser’s “Schism” Mod the female character was originally an NPC? You know how the Player Character position switches to her briefly, causing Xaser to technically become an NPC? That’s what I’m talking about. Still, we can’t just use every person on these Forums as a PC, so I guess most everyone else will have to choose another role.

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I volunteer to be toroko's replacement =D

This is probably merely because I've know him longer, but I thought that Xristosx fit this position better for various reasons. See, Xristosx, as he has said himself, critically dislikes being falsely accused of things he doesn‘t think he did, so, say, the character you begin with and the character who plays King implicate him in something, eventually leading to him attacking said player character within that hut. Furthermore, if I were to be the Misery figure (my apologies for sounding selfish by including myself in this and outright mentioning who I want to "replace"), then it'd make sense that I'd insult him for his typing ability which I’d misinterpret as irritating noobish illiteracy instead of merely him being lazy, causing him to speak out in anger against me which leads me into kidnapping him. That'd make sense, right?

Oh, and I’ve got an idea for Hell/Sacred Grounds. We could call it “4chan!” For everyone who gets this reference, it’d make sense for it to replace Hell, no? Also, we all know how some of the more respected members think that Hell was just “tacked on at the end” along with Ballos and his backstory, so we can easily make use of this preference since 4chan basically has nothing to do with this Forum, get what I’m saying? Ballos could be replaced by “Anonymous.” Since I’m a common visitor of 4chan, I would like to be the character who “becomes” Anonymous at the end of the game by inciting a raid against the Tribute Site deep within the 4chan stage because of my humiliating defeat against the protagonists, and, thus, in a rage, I attempt to access a horrible and forbidden power, namely that of the Internet Hate Machine.

Good? Is the first paragraph okay with you, Xristosx?
 
Feb 10, 2008 at 3:52 AM
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Long ass post including toroko and 4chan.. but not in that way you sickos.
Ah, I see.
*trues to think of what sort of character he'd be*
Damnit, nothing T_T
 
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Good idea, but then who will play the NPCs? (Apart from me of course :p)

I've got another idea for this. All of the NPCs who haven't been taken up can be replaced by Random Catgirls!
 
Feb 10, 2008 at 5:36 AM
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That is a good idea but it would be best if the mod was not about the forum but about the forum members and all the crazy stuff we get into and everything and basing a story around that with any setting you want. The mod should have plenty of humour but also have a plot about forum assassins, slivers, cat girls and a darker purpose.

Ah yes. Possibly I confused you there because I've already developed some of my own ideas for what the mod could be like.
Initially I wasn't too sure if I'd want to be a part of the project, but my imagination basically does whatever it wants, so I figured I figure'd I'd post up what I thought of so far...

I have come up with a way to have the mod be about the Tribute Site forums... yet still be in them at the same time! BEHOLD MY SUMMARY:

Our Currently Unnamed Protagonist (call him Cup for short :p) joins up as a new member at the Cave Story Tribute Site (this could be the intro...) and finds himself entering into our midst. The way I thought of doing this was to have the forums set up as maps; for instance, the CSTS forum would be the first map, and there would be various forum members standing around it, chatting about the various things that are chatted about there (the Movie Script and so on). The stickies could be represented as signs, and there would be two doors leading to the Mod and Hacking sub-forums. The Hacking forum could contain various notes, and perhaps show people working on editing parts of the game and various TSC discussions. The Mod sub-forum could contain all the various mods, represented by computers perhaps, detailing their name, completion level and other stats, and various forum folks could be playing them. All in all I think this would be a great way to introduce everyone and give them all fair inclusion, and to perhaps get the feeling of what the forums might be like to an outsider, ssay, someone in the future who wants to play, or even seeing oursevles through another's eyes. Totally trippin'. This could later be used to delve into the other forums as well (e.g. the Sattelite Lounge for Slivers and 3 word stories.)

So anyway, PLOT!
Mr Cup enters into the forums on his (her?) first day, getting introduced by one of the members along the way, and then is free to roam around until his heart is content, getting to know people and seeing what the forums are all about, eventually, the player can choose to 'log off', the first part of the story will end. Cup decides to return the next day, only to find something amiss. Upon investiagtion, he finds a passage that shouldn't be there, which ultimately leads to a boss. Shocked by his finding, Cup returns to the CSTS to tell everyone about it; some are bemused, some are worried, some don't care much. I haven't thought much after this, but at some point shortly after this, an unknown force will 'attack' the forum, and it will be up to Cup, with the help of the various forum members, to drive back the invading hordes of catgirls and forum assassins and spambots (I'm sure most of us will remember the spambots >.> "Hi I'm new, HAVE SOME VIAGRA!"). Eventually he is victorious, but the forums have been damaged and the site itself is in danger, so Cup volunteers to search for the source of the trouble, intiating the Great Forum Quest. Certain other forum members (who have displayed a desire to be bad guys) will take this opportunity to cause some havoc of their own, and dissappear into other areas to start their various plots. In this way, none of them would be the main bad guy, once again helping to keep things fair for everyone and also allowing for some quests on the side.

Anyway, eventually Cup discovers the Main Bad Guy (who I shall not name, mostly because I'm not sure who they'll be yet >.>) has made his way into the game's data and is attempting to hack it (for not only is this the CSTS, it is also a game itself), and so Cup must enter the very programming himself to prevent the forums from being destroyed. Along the way, he will discover things about the game that nobody ever knew, until he discovers... well, I haven't thought that far ahead yet and I wouldn't want to give it away anyway.

So... do we like? At all? ._. I figure that this would be a somewhat original idea since I haven't seen anything mentioned that's like it so far, but then I'm not sure how it will mesh with what everyone else is thinking of. But that is what this thread it for! To take everyone's ideas and make them mesh. If you have ideas of your own, do not hesitate to post them! Although I think it might be best to get everyone's ideas (for those who have them) out, before we start deciding what we like best, or else something might get missed out.
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Feb 10, 2008 at 7:01 AM
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Ah yes. Possibly I confused you there because I've already developed some of my own ideas for what the mod could be like.
Initially I wasn't too sure if I'd want to be a part of the project, but my imagination basically does whatever it wants, so I figured I figure'd I'd post up what I thought of so far...

I have come up with a way to have the mod be about the Tribute Site forums... yet still be in them at the same time! BEHOLD MY SUMMARY:

Our Currently Unnamed Protagonist (call him Cup for short :p) joins up as a new member at the Cave Story Tribute Site (this could be the intro...) and finds himself entering into our midst. The way I thought of doing this was to have the forums set up as maps; for instance, the CSTS forum would be the first map, and there would be various forum members standing around it, chatting about the various things that are chatted about there (the Movie Script and so on). The stickies could be represented as signs, and there would be two doors leading to the Mod and Hacking sub-forums. The Hacking forum could contain various notes, and perhaps show people working on editing parts of the game and various TSC discussions. The Mod sub-forum could contain all the various mods, represented by computers perhaps, detailing their name, completion level and other stats, and various forum folks could be playing them. All in all I think this would be a great way to introduce everyone and give them all fair inclusion, and to perhaps get the feeling of what the forums might be like to an outsider, ssay, someone in the future who wants to play, or even seeing oursevles through another's eyes. Totally trippin'. This could later be used to delve into the other forums as well (e.g. the Sattelite Lounge for Slivers and 3 word stories.)

So anyway, PLOT!
Mr Cup enters into the forums on his (her?) first day, getting introduced by one of the members along the way, and then is free to roam around until his heart is content, getting to know people and seeing what the forums are all about, eventually, the player can choose to 'log off', the first part of the story will end. Cup decides to return the next day, only to find something amiss. Upon investiagtion, he finds a passage that shouldn't be there, which ultimately leads to a boss. Shocked by his finding, Cup returns to the CSTS to tell everyone about it; some are bemused, some are worried, some don't care much. I haven't thought much after this, but at some point shortly after this, an unknown force will 'attack' the forum, and it will be up to Cup, with the help of the various forum members, to drive back the invading hordes of catgirls and forum assassins and spambots (I'm sure most of us will remember the spambots >.> "Hi I'm new, HAVE SOME VIAGRA!"). Eventually he is victorious, but the forums have been damaged and the site itself is in danger, so Cup volunteers to search for the source of the trouble, intiating the Great Forum Quest. Certain other forum members (who have displayed a desire to be bad guys) will take this opportunity to cause some havoc of their own, and dissappear into other areas to start their various plots. In this way, none of them would be the main bad guy, once again helping to keep things fair for everyone and also allowing for some quests on the side.

Anyway, eventually Cup discovers the Main Bad Guy (who I shall not name, mostly because I'm not sure who they'll be yet >.>) has made his way into the game's data and is attempting to hack it (for not only is this the CSTS, it is also a game itself), and so Cup must enter the very programming himself to prevent the forums from being destroyed. Along the way, he will discover things about the game that nobody ever knew, until he discovers... well, I haven't thought that far ahead yet and I wouldn't want to give it away anyway.

So... do we like? At all? ._. I figure that this would be a somewhat original idea since I haven't seen anything mentioned that's like it so far, but then I'm not sure how it will mesh with what everyone else is thinking of. But that is what this thread it for! To take everyone's ideas and make them mesh. If you have ideas of your own, do not hesitate to post them! Although I think it might be best to get everyone's ideas (for those who have them) out, before we start deciding what we like best, or else something might get missed out.
Hglfmvnz!

I disagree with this plot, mainly because I agree with the sentiment that we shouldn't have the Mod take place on the Forum. Also, it'd be much, much easier for me to just copy the basic structure of the original Cave Story, mostly because I'm new to this whole Mod-making thing and it’d just be easier in general.
 
Feb 10, 2008 at 7:11 AM
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When SP began his thread and the idea, I expected a game somewhat like yellow. You know, lame plot, dumb characters and a lotta humour. I'll explain a plot when my arse feels up to it tho.
 
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Yes!

Yes! Now we have a plot! A much better plot than what I could've made, as well... And there's absolutely no phantom wyv-
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Grrr... Darn it, Lurgreaver! (He he... No harmful thread hijacking intended)

Anyways, to answer your question... Yes, I like this plot idea. It matches the title, it's clever, and best of all, it's better than no plot at all! Finally, this mod shall LIVE!
 
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Yes! Now we have a plot! A much better plot than what I could've made, as well... And there's absolutely no phantom wyv-
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Grrr... Darn it, Lurgreaver! (He he... No harmful thread hijacking intended)

Anyways, to answer your question... Yes, I like this plot idea. It matches the title, it's clever, and best of all, it's better than no plot at all! Finally, this mod shall LIVE!

Which one? I'm assuming you mean DoubleThink's...
 
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Which one? I'm assuming you mean DoubleThink's...
Yes, I do. I appreciate it for catching my error, Kageryushin.
 
Feb 10, 2008 at 8:17 AM
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jcys810 said:
Metalogz, read the first post.Good day.

p.q...

*re-reads first post*
*lols*
 
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Kageryushin said:
I disagree with this plot, mainly because I agree with the sentiment that we shouldn't have the Mod take place on the Forum.
Ah, but it does not merely take place on the forum; it is the forum! Only with a plotline. And stuff >.>

Kageryushin said:
Also, it'd be much, much easier for me to just copy the basic structure of the original Cave Story, mostly because I'm new to this whole Mod-making thing and it’d just be easier in general.
Well in my honest opinion that idea of yours would make the game too similar to other mods of that nature (Fjord's Adventure, the BIG Switcharoo, The Zealous Caves, SUGFM...). I'm not saying my idea is the right one but since this mod is going to be kind of special I think it could be a bit more unique.
Also:
Kageryushin said:
The story would be massively, drastically, IMMENSLY edited to create absurd, humorous scenarios for why the main character is going where.
This does not sound much, much easier :(

Also also: When was it decided that you were in charge of this project? o.O And yes I've read through the other thread, several times. SP said the project was becoming to big and awkward but never actually said he was leaving (at least not in the mod thread) and then you came along and said you'd be willing to do it instead, and now you're in charge of the scrpting suddenly. I was under the impression that this was going to be a group-style project and not a one-man deal, so as to have several people all chipping in to spread the work around and keep the project 'neutral'. Hopefully I didn't miss something... x.x
 
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