The great pirate debate of 2011

Sep 21, 2011 at 1:58 AM
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Yeah, but isn't this supposed to be a discussion about piracy, not corrupt governments? :momo:
 
Sep 21, 2011 at 2:02 AM
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Well in Mr. B's case, the ultimate cause for piracy, or at least buying from another country, is corrupt government.
That is to say that we can't really, at this juncture, talk about one and not the other.
 
Sep 21, 2011 at 2:06 AM
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Yeah, I see your point there.

So, uh, piracy is bad. Piracy is caused by corrupt governments.

Ah yes, here's a more contributory thing to say. If you pirate goods/don't pay taxes etc. than how will your corrupt government ever improve?
 
Sep 21, 2011 at 2:44 AM
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Sincerely I don't know. But it's not like I don't pay any taxes, I only try to skip it on things produced by another countries like games, pc parts, etc. It's not like if they have a real motive to put taxes over 100% the original price, they claim it is to protect the internal market but there ISN'T an internal market to begin with, we don't produce those kind of products. So as I think it's a real dumb tax only made for them to have more money for themselves (since most of it doesn't go back to the country) I simply choose not to contribute on this, importing on myself and skipping the taxes on games. But paying the other ones that have a good purpose (even if not fulfilled)
 
Sep 21, 2011 at 2:54 AM
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I was Wikipedaing(?) when I found this and thought it fit the discussion.
 
Sep 21, 2011 at 3:17 AM
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Lace said:
And if you actually look at other countries, eg Mexico, we're not corrupt in the goddamned least.

Except when you consider all the corrupt, abusive governments we've supported. And all the corporate money that goes into politics.

EDIT: I know my post's offtopic, but this is a freestyle debate, right? Right??

EDIT@Below: And I will continue working on my freestyle homework. :p
Read: still a lot of work.
 
Sep 21, 2011 at 3:37 AM
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Yes, it is freestyle I guess.
I'll come up with a freestyle counterpoint after I finish my very not-freestyle homework.
 
Sep 21, 2011 at 11:40 AM
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Lace said:
You do realize that most of the money you pay in taxes eventually comes back to help you, right? The more taxes you evade, the less social services you have. I don't know which those are in your country, but in the good ol' USA it means more education and medicare cuts.

I like education, so I pay taxes.

We all know that. We're doing the wrong thing and we know it. It's like in Hamlet when King Claudius talked about how wrong it was for him to kill his own brother was.

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I guess that's one thing you can say for the US. We do a reasonably okay job not being horribly corrupt.

You do a reasonably okay job of hiding it.

Also Byakuran we do the same here in Lithuania. Video games and anything related to electronics have a 100% extra cost for some ambiguous and mysterious reason, so if we can we just ship it off from England.
 
Sep 21, 2011 at 3:55 PM
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WoodenRat said:
We all know that. We're doing the wrong thing and we know it. It's like in Hamlet when King Claudius talked about how wrong it was for him to kill his own brother was.

Shakespeare set a good example for future generations to follow. Next you should poke out someone's eyes.
 
Sep 21, 2011 at 5:27 PM
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I thought the "The great pirate debate of 2011" is discussing if the "Yo Ho" phrase from "Jake and the Neverland Pirates" is used in an obscene way or not.

Not that I watch the show.

Now I'm disappointed.

@ontopic I think all (older) books, paintings and classical music should be public property, and should be distributed freely by the internet. Or at least more cultural resources for free.
 
Sep 21, 2011 at 6:24 PM
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Captain Fabulous said:
Shakespeare set a good example for future generations to follow. Next you should poke out someone's eyes.

I felt kinda sorry for Hamlet's

mom in the end though.
 
Sep 21, 2011 at 7:38 PM
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Captain Fabulous said:
Shakespeare set a good example for future generations to follow. Next you should poke out someone's eyes.

Was it in his king-drama "King John"? I've read it but forgot...was like:

John:I'm gonna poke out your eye
Arthur:Please no.
John: I'm gonna poke out your eye
Arthur: Please no.
John: Ok, I won't.
Arthur: Thank you.
John: Meh, I'll poke, just to make sure.
...later...
Somebody:John, get the blind Arthur and you'll be saved.
John: Cool.
...Arthur jumped down from the castle walls...
John: Aw, he's dead.
Everyone: Get him!!!
*John runs
 
Sep 21, 2011 at 7:54 PM
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