The great pirate debate of 2011
- Thread starter WoodenRat
- Start date
Sep 19, 2011 at 12:44 AM
Join Date: Jun 21, 2011
Location:
Posts: 363
Pronouns: he/him
This has become almost entertaining.
But pirating is wrong.
But pirating is wrong.
Sep 19, 2011 at 12:54 AM
Join Date: Jun 21, 2011
Location:
Posts: 363
Pronouns: he/him
Re: Cave Story+
WoodenRat said:
Sep 19, 2011 at 2:30 AM
Join Date: Apr 29, 2008
Location:
Posts: 2459
Age: 20
Re: Cave Story+
Did Piracy rape your father and kill your mother or something guys?
Did Piracy rape your father and kill your mother or something guys?
Sep 19, 2011 at 2:50 AM
Join Date: Sep 7, 2010
Location: Outside your window. No no, don't check, it's okay
Posts: 272
Age: 29
Pronouns: he/him
Saying piracy is evil is like saying a runny nose is evil. It's a symptom.
Piracy is just what happens when capitalism meets the honor system. It's a sign that we need to reexamine the whole concept of ownership, and decide how we're going to change things.
You know, WoodenRat, you'd make a wonderful Dread Pirate Roberts.
Piracy is just what happens when capitalism meets the honor system. It's a sign that we need to reexamine the whole concept of ownership, and decide how we're going to change things.
You know, WoodenRat, you'd make a wonderful Dread Pirate Roberts.
Sep 19, 2011 at 3:53 AM
Join Date: Apr 29, 2008
Location:
Posts: 2459
Age: 20
Did you know that by watching a show on Youtube or any other site that isn't posted by the people who made said show is a form of piracy?
Sep 19, 2011 at 3:56 AM
Join Date: May 28, 2008
Location: PMMM MMO
Posts: 3713
Age: 32
MetaSeraphim said:
Yes! And that is bad too.
Sep 19, 2011 at 3:59 AM
Join Date: Apr 29, 2008
Location:
Posts: 2459
Age: 20
GIRakaCHEEZER said:
Yet, I am willing to bet that most of the people in this thread complaining about piracy has done that in the past or is still doing such a thing.
Sep 19, 2011 at 4:22 AM
Join Date: Jun 21, 2011
Location:
Posts: 363
Pronouns: he/him
Hypocrisy strikes again.
Sep 19, 2011 at 5:50 AM
Join Date: Apr 19, 2009
Location:
Posts: 3785
Age: 18
Pronouns: he/him
You're right, we can't have opinions on morality. We're dirty thieves! Any moral advice from anyone who's watched a show on YouTube is null and void.
This thread wouldn't have needed to exist if WoodenRat had just said "They weren't getting my money anyway" and not brought the war in Afghanistan into this.
This thread wouldn't have needed to exist if WoodenRat had just said "They weren't getting my money anyway" and not brought the war in Afghanistan into this.
Sep 19, 2011 at 12:18 PM
Join Date: Dec 26, 2007
Location: Lithuania
Posts: 1946
bobbyis said:
There can't be any logic in pirating. It's more about the choice of the person, his beliefs about pirating. Where the line is drawn varies from person to person. My opinions on pirating aren't exactly popular. I don't financially support huge corporations, nor do I support indie developers. I choose not to.
I'd like to hear your friend's opinion on this matter, since he believes he has the right to scoff other people's opinions without expressing his.
Captain Fabulous said:
I agree.
Sep 19, 2011 at 5:32 PM
Indie game enthusiast
"What is a man!? A miserable pile of secrets! But enough talk, have at you!"
Join Date: Apr 18, 2006
Location: Forever wandering the tower...!
Posts: 1790
Pronouns: he/him
Pirating is stealing.
Well I thought about it... I have a solution to piracy!
Once the global government/citizen registration act is in place, each individual will be given a single ID used to connect to the new unified internet. It tracks your location, and you can be liable for any net crimes used under while logged on (piracy for example.). Fines will be issued, however you can take it up in court if you think you have a right to.
An automonyous computer will monitor and record (temporarily) all communication and data to ensure global public safety. This way it cannot be compromised, as humans will not directly deal with the system. The system will deal with them. It will have no agenda except protect, and serve, at all costs.
If a crime is comitted the auto-computer sends a digital record of all the user's actions to law enforcement, and your ID may be disconnected until it is resolved. Unless your work marks you as dealing with sensitive information. Then the groups like, for USA, FBI Net Crimes division will be sent the information.
Skynet 1.0.
For Skynet 2.0, assign an audio bio monitoring/tracking/personal ID device for each human that the auto-computer controls. Use global satellites to visually monitor and record people's actions. When a crime is comitted, and proper channels are used; skynet can send a record of their activity to the court to accurately determine guilt or innocence. Courts won't be needed as much anymore. Crimes can be handled in real time, as well as medical assistance.
Peace, always.
Something liek that sounds like a good solution to piracy
Well I thought about it... I have a solution to piracy!
Once the global government/citizen registration act is in place, each individual will be given a single ID used to connect to the new unified internet. It tracks your location, and you can be liable for any net crimes used under while logged on (piracy for example.). Fines will be issued, however you can take it up in court if you think you have a right to.
An automonyous computer will monitor and record (temporarily) all communication and data to ensure global public safety. This way it cannot be compromised, as humans will not directly deal with the system. The system will deal with them. It will have no agenda except protect, and serve, at all costs.
If a crime is comitted the auto-computer sends a digital record of all the user's actions to law enforcement, and your ID may be disconnected until it is resolved. Unless your work marks you as dealing with sensitive information. Then the groups like, for USA, FBI Net Crimes division will be sent the information.
Skynet 1.0.
For Skynet 2.0, assign an audio bio monitoring/tracking/personal ID device for each human that the auto-computer controls. Use global satellites to visually monitor and record people's actions. When a crime is comitted, and proper channels are used; skynet can send a record of their activity to the court to accurately determine guilt or innocence. Courts won't be needed as much anymore. Crimes can be handled in real time, as well as medical assistance.
Peace, always.
Something liek that sounds like a good solution to piracy
Skynet 2.x
With the advent of indestructable AI scout robots they will replace law enforcement and military. Using these robots, people don't have to put themselves in danger. With a single General running the programs, it will keep the world safe from all disasters.
With the advent of indestructable AI scout robots they will replace law enforcement and military. Using these robots, people don't have to put themselves in danger. With a single General running the programs, it will keep the world safe from all disasters.
Matrix00010101010001
With the robot rebellion we won't have to worry about things like piracy anymore. 'Cause they are hooking us up to machines to use us as HUMAN batteries.
With the robot rebellion we won't have to worry about things like piracy anymore. 'Cause they are hooking us up to machines to use us as HUMAN batteries.
Sep 19, 2011 at 6:21 PM
Join Date: Apr 19, 2009
Location:
Posts: 3785
Age: 18
Pronouns: he/him
Oh X-Calibar, only you could solve All the Troubles of the World!
Sep 19, 2011 at 6:43 PM
Indie game enthusiast
"What is a man!? A miserable pile of secrets! But enough talk, have at you!"
Join Date: Apr 18, 2006
Location: Forever wandering the tower...!
Posts: 1790
Pronouns: he/him
Resistance is f...
Oh! You agree!
Well, ignoring my realistic solution...
I think Wooden Rat and anyone who pirates *SHOULD* pay!!!!
The monatary kind, when there is a "Pay what you want" deal for digital copies. Where the bottom limit is 1 cent, to whatever you think it's worth with your current circumstances. (It seems to work well for the Humble Indie Bundle, although there is the a percentage can go to charity with that; still they raised nearly 2 million dollars for pay what you want... digital copies)
Hard copies on the other hand, *Should* cost a normal price, but include little keepsake extras; like a Quote Hat, orCurly Underwear Mimiga figurine.
Oh! You agree!
Well, ignoring my realistic solution...
I think Wooden Rat and anyone who pirates *SHOULD* pay!!!!
The monatary kind, when there is a "Pay what you want" deal for digital copies. Where the bottom limit is 1 cent, to whatever you think it's worth with your current circumstances. (It seems to work well for the Humble Indie Bundle, although there is the a percentage can go to charity with that; still they raised nearly 2 million dollars for pay what you want... digital copies)
Hard copies on the other hand, *Should* cost a normal price, but include little keepsake extras; like a Quote Hat, or
Sep 19, 2011 at 7:20 PM
Join Date: Dec 26, 2007
Location: Lithuania
Posts: 1946
Pay what you want seems like a great system. I never had a credit card. And here, people don't just go all like "Yeah I got myself a credit card, so that I could pay instead of not paying" very often.
Sep 19, 2011 at 9:07 PM
Join Date: Jun 12, 2009
Location: Dracula's Castle
Posts: 570
Age: 32
Pronouns: he/him
I pirate games to see if my computer can run it well enough, and often times also just to try the game out. If I like it, I buy it; if I don't, I delete it.
If you're like me and you actually do this consistently, then there's really nothing to criticize.
If you're like me and you actually do this consistently, then there's really nothing to criticize.
Sep 19, 2011 at 10:22 PM
Offensive User
"Big Joe Tire and Battery Restaurant! Opening Soon! Eat at Big Joes!"
Join Date: Sep 7, 2011
Location: IT'S TIME FOR A SHAQDOWN
Posts: 539
Pronouns: he/him
Isn't that the point of demos? But to you defense, what if there isn't a demo? If that is the case, then I agree with you 100% due to the fact that you are deciding to support developers rather than taking the entire game for yourself.Yakkers said:
Sep 19, 2011 at 10:29 PM
Join Date: May 28, 2008
Location: PMMM MMO
Posts: 3713
Age: 32
Sometimes if I'm forced to go into a bookstore (say I'm with a family member who wants to shop there for an hour or so) I'll go to the comics section and read a Garfield book or a Calvin and Hobbes book. Sometimes I'll read the whole thing o: Does this make me a pirate?