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The age old debate - Is CS based on Earth?

Mar 30, 2009 at 6:13 PM
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It's an alternate universe's Earth.
 
Mar 30, 2009 at 6:51 PM
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*inb4 Jacob says something about what are the chances of another race of people besides human naming their home planet Earth*
 
Apr 1, 2009 at 1:18 AM
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In their own language? I'd put it around a 90% chance. Calling the planet Earth in English? Perhaps a 5% chance.
 
Apr 1, 2009 at 7:07 PM
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Celtic Minstrel said:
In their own language? I'd put it around a 90% chance. Calling the planet Earth in English? Perhaps a 5% chance.
I'd put it even higher, at around, say, 100%. Seriously, how else would you call your home planet? After millenia of history behind your back?
 
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Well, let's use some examples from Star Control II.
  • The Slylandro call their homeworld "Source".
  • The Spathi call their homeworld "Spathiwa". If I were to hazard a guess, I would think that that translates to something like "Home of the Spathi". If you assume that "Spathi" means people, then "Spathiwa" would mean "Home of the People".
  • The Syreen call their original homeworld "Syra". I can't say much about this because it's unclear whether the race name is based on the planet name or the other way around. Their new homeworld, however, is called "Gaia", fitting the common pattern.
  • The Supox call their homeworld "Vlik", meaning "Perfectly Good and Nutritious Dirt"; so this fits the common pattern.
  • The Shofixti call their homeworld "Kyabetsu". It's impossible to determine if this fits the common pattern since it's never said what it means.
  • The Utwig call their homeworld "Fahz". There's a good chance that this means "Earth", but again it's impossible to be certain.
  • The Dnyarri called their homeworld "Glilandy" (unless this was a lie). That probably means "Earth", though etymological analysis isn't technically valid here.
  • The Ariloulaleelay call their homeworld Falayalaralfali. This could mean almost anything.

So of the races who name their homeworld in the game, only three definitely fit the pattern (including humans). Another three likely fit the pattern. One fits the pattern "Our Home", and another may also fit this pattern. One fits a somewhat unique pattern, "Source", and the final one (Arilou) is an enigma.

So, no, definitely not a 100% chance of calling a homeworld "Earth" in one's own language. Calling it "Source" or "Homeworld" is also logical.
 
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I think T-Jack may have been talking about calling one's home planet Earth in English would be at a 100% chance.
 
Apr 3, 2009 at 12:09 AM
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I already pointed out that the Japanese script doesn't say "Earth", it says "surface". It's most likely a translation error just like the naming inconsistancies between in-game and the credits, the password, and how Date's given name and surname ordering (surname first) was different to every other character (given name first).

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Well, let's use some examples from Star Control II.
  • The Slylandro call their homeworld "Source".
  • The Spathi call their homeworld "Spathiwa". If I were to hazard a guess, I would think that that translates to something like "Home of the Spathi". If you assume that "Spathi" means people, then "Spathiwa" would mean "Home of the People".
  • The Syreen call their original homeworld "Syra". I can't say much about this because it's unclear whether the race name is based on the planet name or the other way around. Their new homeworld, however, is called "Gaia", fitting the common pattern.
  • The Supox call their homeworld "Vlik", meaning "Perfectly Good and Nutritious Dirt"; so this fits the common pattern.
  • The Shofixti call their homeworld "Kyabetsu". It's impossible to determine if this fits the common pattern since it's never said what it means.
  • The Utwig call their homeworld "Fahz". There's a good chance that this means "Earth", but again it's impossible to be certain.
  • The Dnyarri called their homeworld "Glilandy" (unless this was a lie). That probably means "Earth", though etymological analysis isn't technically valid here.
  • The Ariloulaleelay call their homeworld Falayalaralfali. This could mean almost anything.

So of the races who name their homeworld in the game, only three definitely fit the pattern (including humans). Another three likely fit the pattern. One fits the pattern "Our Home", and another may also fit this pattern. One fits a somewhat unique pattern, "Source", and the final one (Arilou) is an enigma.

So, no, definitely not a 100% chance of calling a homeworld "Earth" in one's own language. Calling it "Source" or "Homeworld" is also logical.
The common themes would most likely be earth, life, source/homeworld, or a name related to the inhabitants.
 
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Can't be. Ika-Chan took place on Earth (IIRC, the final cutscene has a picture of the Earth in the background), and the migration ended with them on another planet. Since they give you the Alien Medal in Cave Story, the game obviously takes place *after* the fish migration, so there you go.
 
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No one was really talking about if Cave Story took place on our Earth. What was mostly being talked about is would the name of the planet be Earth.
 
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Just because a place is called Earth doesn't mean it's our Earth. So your point is moot.
 
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First of all, no.

Second of all, that doesn't mean that planet isn't called Earth too.
 
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it might be earth like thousands of years in the future.
 
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Not our Earth. But it could have very well taken place on a Earth.
 
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it could be a planet in a similar orbit.
 
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weve alredy established that fact.
 
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G. freemaan said:
weve alredy established that fact.

No, "we" haven't.:D
 
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I don't think Ika-Chan is canon for Cave Story...


And Jacob seems to be labouring under the illusion that names must be unique... which is clearly false, since I know at least three people named Sarah, and there are at least two cities named London. So there's no reason there couldn't be seven planets called Earth.
 
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Not necessarily.
 
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Celtic Minstrel said:
I don't think Ika-Chan is canon for Cave Story...

Why not? You have Ironhead and everything.
 
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