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OmegaFoxie
Helllo :)
I looked at your notes regarding Pitch in OrgMaker (very interesting stuff)
Have you ever done any testing with the wavedata from Doukoutsu.exe, since it's different from the OrgMaker one?
(Org View, OrgMaker 1, and Cave Story+ all use the same Wavedata as Doukutsu.exe)

I compared them in Audacity, and aside from some minor, but noticeable differences in the waves, they mostly seem to differ in volume
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Bavi_H
Bavi_H
> You said WAVE100 from CS / BGM is slightly different from OM1

Sorry if my notes were unclear. I wasn't trying to say that at all. In my sheet, where I have a1* and a5*, the * note represents the transition between the a1 and the a5: "These two are different". All the other note marks in my sheet work the same way, they mark the two items before and after the change the note is talking about.


> Now I saw a lot of instrument differences between OM2 J and E, so I believe they're named differently? (OM2 J TOM03 = OM2 E TOM01?) I believe that's something you fixed in the translation process, as OM1 TOM01 = OM2 E TOM01)

Correct. I didn't describe this in the sheet and assumed the reader would already be familiar with it. This situation is always challenging to explain in words. Here are some previous documents and posts where I explain this:

1. In org210x.zip, open drums.htm, then go to the bottom section that says "More information".

2. "I'm talking about the sound swaps Bass01/Bass04, Snare01/Snare03, Tom01/Tom03, HiClose/HiClose02, and HiOpen/HiOpen02.": http://www.cavestory.org/forums/threads/orgmaker-2-1-0-english-translation-in-progress.5584/#post-186967

3. "some of the sounds (the actual waves that define the sound) are switched to different names.": http://www.cavestory.org/forums/threads/orgmaker-2-1-0-english-translation-in-progress.5584/page-2#post-209675


> WAVE100 from OM2 (2.05) J/E are slightly different, so that might be Xaser's "fault"

From what I remember, Xaser only rearranged the drum resources in OrgMaker 2.0.5 Japanese so the Cave Story drum sounds once again matched their names OrgMaker 1, undoing the sound swaps that Rxo Inverse introduced as described above. Besides this re-arrangement, from what I remember, the resources in OrgMaker 2.0.5 English (Xaser or Bavi_H) are the same as OrgMaker 2.0.5 Japanese, so I guess it was Rxo Inverse who made the slight changes to the wavedata from OrgMaker 1. (On the other hand, maybe Rxo had access to an internal unreleased OrgMaker from Pixel that was in the process of being updated, and it was Pixel who made the wavedata changes? We just know OrgMaker 1 and 2 have slightly different wavedata.)


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Bavi_H
Bavi_H
> (though I can't actually check if they're different as I can't find downloads for 2.05)

I found an old cavestory.org download page in the Internet Archive Wayback Machine, and Xaser's English zip is stored in the Wayback Machine's archive. Also, the addresses to the Japanese and English 2.0.5 files still work on Rxo Inverse's site and on cavestory.org, they're just not linked anywhere:

cavestory.org Music Tools [2012-01-31]
http://web.archive.org/web/20120131103728/http://www.cavestory.org/downloads_musictools.php

OrgMaker 2.0.5 Japanese
http://cgi.www5b.biglobe.ne.jp/~kiss-me/aji/download/download.cgi?dlfile=Org205.exe&dlname=ORGANYA205

OrgMaker 2.0.5x English [by Xaser]
http://www.cavestory.org/downloads/Org205x-Release1.zip


And my updates to Xaser's English translation still exist on my site (I started from Xaser's version in order to keep the same resource re-arrangement):

OrgMaker 2.0.5xb English [by Bavi_H]
http://www.cavestory.org/forums/threads/orgmaker-2-update.4182/
http://rnhart.net/orgmaker2xb/org205xb.zip


> I assume this doesn't apply to OM2 2.10, which isn't listed in the sheet so it's not relevant right now anyway

When I originally wrote these notes, OrgMaker 2.1.0 didn't yet exist. When OrgMaker 2.1.0 Japanese was released, I think I compared the resources but they were same as OrgMaker 2.0.5 Japanese, except OrgMaker 2.1.0 had new drum sounds added. However, the more I think about it, I'm not sure. (Maybe they just sounded the same to me, but weren't bit-for-bit identical.) If that is important to you, you might want to check to confirm.
OmegaFoxie
OmegaFoxie
Again, thanks for the answers. I'll take a look at everything, perhaps make my own comparison sheets, and get back to you. Might take a while, but I'll definitely get to it.
Cibryll
A Fighting/Dragon-type… oh dear.
Cibryll
Cibryll
Double weakness to Fairy-types. Can't hit Mimikyu for STAB (unless it learns a move that lets it hit Ghost and/or Fairy-types or something). (Jangmo-o's evolutions gain the Fighting type.)

Type: Null also evolves into "Shiruvadi", which is a Normal-type with AR System as an ability; its type can change to any of the 18 types, depending on the Memory item it holds. Multi Attack, which changes type based on the Memory it holds, is a move Shiruvadi can use.

So, Type: Null is sort-of like Arceus, then?

… oh, and there's Alolan Grimer, which is just Poison/Dark, and Ilima is the first Trial Captain.
ColdCallerLoopy
ColdCallerLoopy
Ok:

Fighitng Dragon, boom another way my Roserade with dazzling gleam can be useful.
Null with the AR system seems OP, they better ban it's other forms for official tournaments . It's like a non-legendary Arceus, it's asking to be nerfed/banned. And Alolan-Grimer seems pretty cool, I like the combination of Poison and Dark, gives thief, payback, and dark pulse some stab, and a immunity to physic is nice, a new weakness to fighting may be a problem though. But hey can't to see how it turns out.
Oh yea Llima's in there.
rixis19
hellooooo
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rixis19
rixis19
Understandable honestly, I agree. And thats really good to hear, I'm glad you're doing well! And yeah appreciate it now, I can say from experience that thats true, enjoy it.

Im in a interesting place again. I'm in the process of recovering from other events, non-catastrophic to my social life this time but more to my own health. I'm getting by at least.
Polaris
Polaris
I hope you'll recover soon, then! Health issues can be the worst. :o
rixis19
rixis19
Thank you, it's appreciated, and yeah, they can be the worst. Sleep deprivation is terrible, working 30 and a half hours messed up my sleeping schedule badly and led to other things.
Sora655
toontown is truly the best game of this century
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ColdCallerLoopy
ColdCallerLoopy
No, I can download it later, may I have your discord so I can use it later?
Sora655
Sora655
i have no clue how the discord friend system works, my number is #4642, if that helps, i think you might have to look up my username along with it, which is just Sora655
ColdCallerLoopy
ColdCallerLoopy
Ok thank you I'll try tomorrow
OmegaFoxie
Can't come up with anything remotely intelligent to say, so here, have another extremely useless profile post from me
SolaEclipse75
trying to beat final cave (hidden)
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mckgamer
mckgamer
Good luck. Took me forever my first time but once you get the hang of the Booster 2.0 it's so rewarding.
Polaris
Polaris
You've got it. Practice with the 2.0 makes perfect, and you'll appreciate that practice for the rest of the game. That said, take it slow and systematic if that helps with the critters!
GunbladeMaster34
GunbladeMaster34
On Polaris' note, watch out for the Presses near the end. They'll crush you.
OmegaFoxie
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TLinkan
TLinkan
It's kinda hard to not read the profile posts if they're right in our faces whenever we get to the main page.
TLinkan
TLinkan
Especially when there are other members who would make posts like this one, too. We don't need more members doing that.
OmegaFoxie
OmegaFoxie
Oh well. I suppose I should've considered that. For me it's like, I don't see the profile posts unless I directly look at them.
And for other members doing similar stuff, well I haven't encountered any yet (which is no excuse for shitposting like this)

TL;DR: Sorry, won't do it again
Polaris
For those who for some reason want to know but have ceased checking (and check here???), I'm doing Gallery uploads again after a two month """""break"""""! Who am I kidding, I just want to restore some shaky trust because I've been constantly screwing up for the past year or two. I imagine it's a bit exhausting, being my friend, given how exhausting it is to keep renewing. Don't have another path.
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Polaris
Polaris
There’s no need to be, I don’t necessarily need a reaction or support! This message is for others, just an acknowledgement of what I’ve been doing.
Brayconn
Brayconn
I think you're being too hard on yourself. Just because you leave for a bit and come back, doesn't mean that you have to "renew" with anyone. I mean, you are basically the face of the CSTSF after all (according to google); I doubt anyone has forgotten you.
Mint
Mint
If anybody is screwing up all the time, it's me.
You don't need to exhaust yourself by keeping up with everything if you don't want to.
It's not like someone is assumed dead if they are inactive for a week or whatever.
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