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Oct 17, 2009 at 1:58 AM
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Well, whenever Andwhy does one of his dreaded bans, everyone stays quiet. When Oliver does a rightful ban that everyone should be able to appreciate anyway, everyone (mostly you) fusses over it. It's just not right. Would you prefer ANDWHY banning us for even discussing this?
 
Oct 17, 2009 at 2:00 AM
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^ You seem to be defending Lowell. No wonder Fire hates your guts.
* I haven't been banned yet (and, knowing myself, probably will be soon)
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Oct 17, 2009 at 2:28 AM
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Re: Please don't write a title for me.

^ - Nope, not yet.
* - Still not banned
V - Was not banned when they posted comment below.

GIRakaCHEEZER said:
Also personally I think it's a bit harsh to ban someone just because they say "you're not allowed to threaten me D: "

Fire1052 said:
"Threatening to ban" is also called A WARNING. The thing Andwhy said he REFUSED TO DO.
REASONABLE BAN FOR A REASONABLE REASON.

GIRakaCHEEZER said:
Saying that though is a bit of a stretch though, since he doesn't say anything offsensive really (besides telling SP he can't warn him). I still don't know why Lowell was warned in the first place though.

Well, what Lowell might have said may not seem offensive to some, it's not a stretch to imagine that SP might have found it offensive and rude (especially if he was soused at the time). Lowell was kinda "pushing his buttons", so to speak.

However, this doesn't make it right by the definition of a fair and impartial ruling system. Do we really need to be taking sides on a matter like this? Andwhy's banning has been a little on the heavy side, but he's given some justification for it. SP might have overreacted to Lowell's comments, and the general animosity towards Lowell doesn't help things. Neither side of the argument is in a higher position than the other, from my point of view. You're just comparing apples to oranges.
 
Oct 17, 2009 at 2:54 AM
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Re: Please don't write a title for me.

^ Made king's story.
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Oct 17, 2009 at 3:03 AM
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^ soz.
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Oct 17, 2009 at 4:27 AM
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It's weird that users are always asking me for ban reasons, but they don't say anything when Andwhyisit bans people without even a proper warning.

GIRakaCHEEZER said:
So the reason why void was banned was because he TOLD that you're not allowed to threaten him with a ban. Which I suppose you can threaten other members with bans, so long as you have reason.

That's not the only reason.

GIRakaCHEEZER said:
However one thing I don't get is, or maybe I haven't seen this, is the disrespect and arrogance that he has showed in the past. I don't/haven't seen this, not to the extents to warrant you threatening him with a ban IMO.

Even if it wasn't, he should cut back on this sort of behaviour. It seems that he doesn't listen to me because he of his ego and when he was doing it at that time, he just pushed my good nature past its limits. If I remember correctly, he has said in the past that he doesn't respect me as a person in my entirity.

GIRakaCHEEZER said:
I never saw where he was discriminating really. So I just want to know (with quotes and other such evidence hopfully) why you think he was disrespectful or arrogant or discriminating. It would be nice if you could tell me this, because so far what I've heard has been a one sided argument from Void and I'd like to hear your side of the story as well.

He is always very confident about his opinions and himself. He automatically assumes or thinks that he is right and the other person is wrong. He has horrid manners, but he's telling most of the other members that they have no respect, while he himself has no respect for the opposition in question. He tells them what they're doing is wrong and they should stop, but he doesn't seem to stoop to take his own advice. He's pretty much the biggest hypocrite I've ever met.

His mannerisms are far too rude sometimes. He assumes that he is something force above the others who don't agree with his morals and opinions. And that's not a behaviour I would like to see on this forum. We are a community, and we should be proud to call ourselves such.

He discriminates the females, for example, when he says "show respect for the other sex, etc." when someone posts on the subject of porn. SkyeWelse did the same. It's as if they think that females shouldn't be exposed to these things. That's an old, sexist belief that women are delicate and weak. They are equally human and do exactly as we do (you know exactly what I mean). I mean, if you guys haven't notice (I'm sure you have), most if not all of this discussion was started and kept up by the forums females! This whole idea is implausible beyond belief!


Not often, as in, if it had worked before andwhy wouldn't have had to resort to the hammer. {He did give them a big warning. None of them listened to it until they themselves were banned, even though others around them were getting it}
And the hammer is successful.
Practically all of the users who have been causing ruckus have quieted down a lot. I'd say it's working.
At least, more than just warning them had. They don't seem to take to words as much as they take to actions.
Also, hate isn't the sole thing andwhy's attracted.
The rest of us {The haters being the minority} have been joyed to finally see some action.

He is speaking as if everyone approves of what Andwhy does and only a single minority is against it. Not to mention that he is saying that everyone who doesn't agree with him "breaks the rules". It's like he's saying that his opinion is above all and everyone who doesn't agree with him has some serious problem and they deserve to be removed from the forums entirely. He always speaks like there are two groups, like he wants to split the whole forum into two groups; the ones who are with Andwhyisit (the ones who like Lowell), and "the rest, the minority, the trouble-makers," and the immediate assumption that they have no morals and are just bad in general.
That last sentence was the especially provocating part. It's like he is enjoying other people getting banned, I don't think bans are funny. He assumes that because he can push everything onto everyone else that he has power in the forums as an "influential person."

Heheh, don't assume arrogancy when I'm using facts.
I've had just as many, if not more, praise andwhy, both on the forums in and IM chatting.
Really, I don't see the problem. The bannies have broken the rules many-a-time before they finally got it. They were warned several times, but they never listened.
The rules need to be followed, several agree with me on this.

Again, of course his opinions are "facts".
See what I'm talking about? He talks about the others and giving them Names such as "Bannies". Then he is trying to make me change my opinion about it, like it's the only option. Who said that the fucking rules are ultimate? They have been made up by the admins. Us. It's not like they are law and need to be enforced or something. (To an extent, of course. We may choose to be lenient or harsh. I, personally, prefer lenience.)

GIRakaCHEEZER said:
Also personally I think it's a bit harsh to ban someone just because they say "you're not allowed to threaten me D: ", but that's my opinion and in the end you're the administrator.

A user shouldn't be able to command an administrator. He or she should obey the commands of that administrator. In this respect, my standing is absolute. What he did is just painfully arrogant. It shows other users that they are free to use me like a puppet for their own gain. Some other users are pushing me around, and I don't like it. It didn't looked like he was joking about any of it, so it's his and only his fault.

GIRakaCHEEZER said:
I've got to stop dealing with this forum drama though, it's cutting into my free time too much.

Then you should probably just drop the subject. o:

GIRakaCHEEZER said:
Saying that though is a bit of a stretch though, since he doesn't say anything offsensive really (besides telling SP he can't warn him). I still don't know why Lowell was warned in the first place though.

Noxid said:
Lowell was kinda "pushing his buttons", so to speak.

Yeah, he tends to do that sometimes and it's not a good behaviour, also a reason why he is banned now. He should learn that there are limits.

Noxid said:
and the general animosity towards Lowell doesn't help things

Then maybe Lowell should think about his own behaviour? With a bloated ego like his, you can't really expect him to, and it shows. While he tells us to respect others, he doesn't seem to want to follow his own advice. He just argues everything, thinking that he is correct by default. It's unhealthy behavior, and it's not something I like to see on my forums.

He deserved this ban, and if you look around, you might realize this.
 
Oct 17, 2009 at 5:48 AM
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S. P. Gardebiter said:
Andwhyisit bans people without even a proper warning.

What an excellent display of poor moderatorship!

I demand an apology RIGHT NOW!
 
Oct 17, 2009 at 5:44 PM
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I think that was the whole point, Whyme.
 
Oct 17, 2009 at 5:53 PM
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No. I mean I want andwhyisit himself to apologize to me.
 
Oct 17, 2009 at 10:29 PM
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A wonderfully long post explaining bans and I still have no idea what post I was banned for.
 
Oct 17, 2009 at 11:18 PM
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Fire1052 said:
"Threatening to ban" is also called A WARNING. The thing Andwhy said he REFUSED TO DO. He goes STRAIGHT TO BANNING.
I understand the concept of warning people. I gave every person in this forum a single warning, those who didn't listen to the warning are being banned, although for shorter periods.

@SP: Now if you have something against what I am doing then take it up with me via PM. Yes I have actually read that conversation between you and Lowell. Though I honestly find it disappointing that you ban someone because you don't like that person's personality, yet haven't banned or possibly even warned anyone who actually breaks the rules. You know, that thing you should actually enforce.
 
Oct 17, 2009 at 11:24 PM
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^: Should clear out this banning discussion. Srsly.
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Oct 18, 2009 at 12:11 AM
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^ should elaborate. in finnish.
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V is posting in ignorance.
 
Oct 18, 2009 at 12:16 AM
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Oct 18, 2009 at 12:20 AM
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^ only a tad.
< posting in vjshfs
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Oct 18, 2009 at 12:27 AM
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Oct 18, 2009 at 12:29 AM
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stoopid ninjas said:
^ no, not really.
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^ ya, binary
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Oct 18, 2009 at 12:32 AM
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andwhyisit said:
Though I honestly find it disappointing that you ban someone because you don't like that person's personality

I just don't encourage behaviour which is hostile to the community, as well as I don't encourage disrespectful behaviour. If you think I just banned him because of his personality as a whole, then that's maybe your view of the things. Still I think I don't have to say that who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
 
Oct 18, 2009 at 12:33 AM
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