• Hey everyone happy Christmas Eve we're aware of what's happened with the source code so to keep this simple absolutely don't post it on the site or use it to make mods with (it's not particularly preferable toward this end anyway) and tread lightly in general until we see how this settles, thanks to all and have a great holiday season -DT

Quote built on the Island??

May 28, 2009 at 2:27 AM
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May 28, 2009 at 2:28 AM
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Fire1052 said:
I know, I know...
Apparently not. You don't say these thing out loud, ever. Screw this, I'm outta here.
 
May 28, 2009 at 2:30 AM
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Thank God.
 
May 28, 2009 at 2:32 AM
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Yeah, because T-Jack is just an annoying troll who never contributes anything worth the time it takes to write it.
Oh wait, that's you.
 
May 28, 2009 at 2:34 AM
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No, because when T-Jack leaves my urge to troll goes with him.
 
May 28, 2009 at 2:38 AM
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If you were a clever troll, what'd be the point?
 
May 28, 2009 at 2:40 AM
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You sound just like me.
 
May 28, 2009 at 2:42 AM
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Oh really now?
 
May 28, 2009 at 2:44 AM
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I'd have to say it doesn't really matter what I answer to that. It will never stop.
 
May 28, 2009 at 3:14 AM
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Sheesh

Fire1052 said:
Not having any evidence is actually evidence against it. If you can't prove it, we can just say "no."
That, ser, is a contradiction in itself, and full of fail. :eek:
It could simply be used the other way too, so don't be lazy, actually try thinking =P

Anyways, after seeing the 2-3 pointless pages of seemingly trollism, I'm almost tempted to defend Jack's theory XD
When you say crap like:

Fire1052 said:
You're just saying that to protect your awful theory that no one will ever love.
Fire1052 said:
So that instantly makes you and the theory wrong. Have a good day.
Fire1052 said:
Being a dick in general. That logic.
Fire1052 said:
No, because when T-Jack leaves my urge to troll goes with him.
You're actually supporting his theory more, by showing that the person arguing against it {That's you, btw} is clearly a moron and doesn't know what he's talking about :D

In the short time you've been back, you've contributed very little, and spammed a lot more.....

~~~~Anyways, back to the theory that I'm fighting to the end against:

T-Jack said:
Eh, I guess I don't...
Eh, I guess it's because I just find it pretty offensive or something to think that Curly and Quote are built from spare parts, >.>;
T-Jack said:
Well, not as soon as it started, but just in time to stop Miakid, I guess.
And that'd be, what? So-and-so years?
We need a time-line for this, =D
T-Jack said:
I'll just retell it: After defeating Miakid, Bob found Quote, badly damaged, and dragged him back to Start Point to repair him. Bob just replaced some lost limbs, burnt artificial skin and destroyed memory banks. Then, Bob died before he could boot Quote up.
Well, um, you said yourself the Start Point's the safest place, and that's why Quote was there...
..Care to explain how "Bob" died..?

T-Jack said:
Well, all I'm assuming is that there was at least one freaking genius on the island prior to the War.
You're really underestimating the ingenuity required to something as construct the minds of Curly and Quote, practically single-handedly....
Imagine how hard that had to have been, to create a full and free mind?
The other robots were nothing like Curly or Quote, which means that putting together spare parts from other robots couldn't have possibly created their minds.
That had to have required a lot of work.
"Bob" would have been basically playing God. And in such a low-tech place as the Island....
I really can't see it happening XD
 
May 28, 2009 at 3:41 AM
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VoidMage_Lowell said:
That, ser, is a contradiction in itself, and full of fail. :D
It could simply be used the other way too, so don't be lazy, actually try thinking =P

Anyways, after seeing the 2-3 pointless pages of seemingly trollism, I'm almost tempted to defend Jack's theory XD
When you say crap like:


You're actually supporting his theory more, by showing that the person arguing against it {That's you, btw} is clearly a moron and doesn't know what he's talking about :D

In the short time you've been back, you've contributed very little, and spammed a lot more.....
Thanks.


VoidMage_Lowell said:
~~~~Anyways, back to the theory that I'm fighting to the end against:
Dude, not helping...


VoidMage_Lowell said:
Eh, I guess it's because I just find it pretty offensive or something to think that Curly and Quote are built from spare parts, >.>;
Yeah, I sorta get what you mean.


VoidMage_Lowell said:
And that'd be, what? So-and-so years?
We need a time-line for this, =D
There's not even a clear timeline in the game, how can I know that? Eh, heck with it: 2-4 years after the War, tops.


VoidMage_Lowell said:
Well, um, you said yourself the Start Point's the safest place, and that's why Quote was there...
Well, I figured that if Start Point is so far from everywhere, it was probably a good place to hide...


VoidMage_Lowell said:
..Care to explain how "Bob" died..?
Dunno, there might've been hundreds of reasons, though I'd probably go with "he was wounded in the War" if I had to.


VoidMage_Lowell said:
You're really underestimating the ingenuity required to something as construct the minds of Curly and Quote, practically single-handedly....
Imagine how hard that had to have been, to create a full and free mind?
The other robots were nothing like Curly or Quote, which means that putting together spare parts from other robots couldn't have possibly created their minds.
That had to have required a lot of work.
"Bob" would have been basically playing God. And in such a low-tech place as the Island....
I really can't see it happening XD
Well, Bob had to use only parts of the robots, which means he even had to use their software, since it came with the hardware (processors and all). He probably did alter some of the programming, to make the robots more of pacifists, but he didn't fully understand it, which explains why Curly is so trigger happy. Well, Quote too.
I actually wish there was someone who could find better words for what I'm trying to say here.
 
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*Shrugs*

T-Jack said:
Don't be thanking me just yet....
T-Jack said:
Dude, not helping...
See? :D
T-Jack said:
There's not even a clear timeline in the game, how can I know that? Eh, heck with it: 2-4 years after the War, tops.
So, what happened to Curly after the War? {It appears "Bob" abandoned her to mess with Quote T.T}
Something bad, apparantly, if she lost her memory of Miakid...
T-Jack said:
Well, I figured that if Start Point is so far from everywhere, it was probably a good place to hide...
Um, SPIKES!!
Negitive 127
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The Start Point is the most DANGEROUS FREAKIN' PLACE IN THE GAME!!!

:D
T-Jack said:
Dunno, there might've been hundreds of reasons, though I'd probably go with "he was wounded in the War" if I had to.
So, he lived just long enough to fix Quote, but not to activate him...?
And chose his wounds over Quote's? Who could have waited indefinitely...?
And, why would he repair Quote over his wounds? He couldn't possibly have predicted Ballos and the Doctor..

T-Jack said:
Well, Bob had to use only parts of the robots, which means he even had to use their software, since it came with the hardware (processors and all). He probably did alter some of the programming, to make the robots more of pacifists, but he didn't fully understand it, which explains why Curly is so trigger happy. Well, Quote too.
I actually wish there was someone who could find better words for what I'm trying to say here.
Still, it's like trying to make a Windows XP from a OS X.....
...Or something.....
I just really can't see it happening XD!

And, I don't think it's the program's fault for Curly being trigger happy...
..Remember, she had to defend the little Mimigas from the other Robots....
..But Quote? He's just Quote.
 
May 28, 2009 at 4:05 AM
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VoidMage_Lowell said:
So, what happened to Curly after the War? {It appears "Bob" abandoned her to mess with Quote T.T}
Something bad, apparantly, if she lost her memory of Miakid...
I figure he found her first, therefore repaired her first, therefore started her first. Meanwhile he found Quote, so he just took Curly to Jenka to look after her, and because the starting process takes a while, she woke up there. Anyway, that's what I think.


VoidMage_Lowell said:
Um, SPIKES!!
Negitive 127
Tale of the Cave
The Start Point is the most DANGEROUS FREAKIN' PLACE IN THE GAME!!!

:D
But safe from killah robotz!


VoidMage_Lowell said:
So, he lived just long enough to fix Quote, but not to activate him...?
Maybe he didn't fix him completely (hence why we begin the game fith only 3 HP)...


VoidMage_Lowell said:
And chose his wounds over Quote's? Who could have waited indefinitely...?
And, why would he repair Quote over his wounds? He couldn't possibly have predicted Ballos and the Doctor..
I'm sure there's a way for a guy to die from years old wounds.


VoidMage_Lowell said:
Still, it's like trying to make a Windows XP from a OS X.....
...Or something.....
I just really can't see it happening XD!

And, I don't think it's the program's fault for Curly being trigger happy...
..Remember, she had to defend the little Mimigas from the other Robots....
..But Quote? He's just Quote.
Well, we probably won't agree on that matter.
 
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To the death, with ye!

T-Jack said:
I figure he found her first, therefore repaired her first, therefore started her first. Meanwhile he found Quote, so he just took Curly to Jenka to look after her, and because the starting process takes a while, she woke up there. Anyway, that's what I think.
Well, what about Kaseo's mod, where Jenka finds Curly unconscious? :D
Shouldn't we take mods over theories, first? {Then again, there are mods that contradict each other....But theories do that, too =D}
{Not sure about the other mods, though, still haven't gotten around to playing them...}
T-Jack said:
But safe from killah robotz!
Maybah cuz teh Killah Robotz r friad 2 go tere?
T-Jack said:
Maybe he didn't fix him completely (hence why we begin the game fith only 3 HP)...
Maybe Quote's just a weakling =D
But, I guess the wounds would have been pretty severe in-order to have Quote become unconscious and lose his memory, like that.

T-Jack said:
I'm sure there's a way for a guy to die from years old wounds.
OMG, SUDDEN HEART ATTACK DURING A GAME OF CHARADES!
:D
But, eh, I thought "Bob" was an ingenius engineer, not a fighter...
T-Jack said:
Well, we probably won't agree on that matter.
Yeah, probably.

Fight 2 teh deaf!
 
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VoidMage_Lowell said:
OMG, SUDDEN HEART ATTACK DURING A GAME OF CHARADES!

Demetri Martin?

Sorry, off-topic, but I wanna know.
 
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Demetri Martin?

Sorry, off-topic, but I wanna know.
Um, yeah...
You should pay more attention to my ever-changing Signature Quotes.
I had that one in there awhile ago :D
 
May 28, 2009 at 4:23 AM
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VoidMage_Lowell said:
Well, what about Kaseo's mod, where Jenka finds Curly unconscious? :D
Shouldn't we take mods over theories, first? {Then again, there are mods that contradict each other....But theories do that, too =D}
{Not sure about the other mods, though, still haven't gotten around to playing them...}
Well, that mod contradits CS itself (at least it did when I played it last time), in that she kills the Korons' parent before adopting them in the mod.


VoidMage_Lowell said:
Maybah cuz teh Killah Robotz r friad 2 go tere?
Cuz teh killah robotz cant get thar without getting of


VoidMage_Lowell said:
Maybe Quote's just a weakling =D
But, I guess the wounds would have been pretty severe in-order to have Quote become unconscious and lose his memory, like that.
Uh... yeah, that.


VoidMage_Lowell said:
OMG, SUDDEN HEART ATTACK DURING A GAME OF CHARADES!
:D
But, eh, I thought "Bob" was an ingenius engineer, not a fighter...
Well that doesn't mean he couldn't have gotten injured.


VoidMage_Lowell said:
Yeah, probably.

Fight 2 teh deaf!
Yea-what??
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Bwhahah

T-Jack said:
Well, that mod contradits CS itself (at least it did when I played it last time), in that she kills the Korons' parent before adopting them in the mod.
Yeah, well..uh...
..Iono...>.>;
No wait, since last you played it...
...That could be fixed =D
...Eventually...

T-Jack said:
Cuz teh killah robotz cant get thar without getting of
You know I hate that T.T
T-Jack said:
Uh... yeah, that.
Oh, stealing ideaz from me now, are we?
T-Jack said:
Well that doesn't mean he couldn't have gotten injured.
How'd he get injured when constructing Robotz?
We needs more details.
{Well, apparantly only I do....T.T}

T-Jack said:
Yea-what??
*T-Jack hits VoidMage_Lowell for 67 damage!*
*VoidMage_Lowell is confused!*
What?!
*VoidMage_Lowell falls backwards, disappearing into a Void Tear*
*Forgotten_Tower comes and rolls over T-Jack for 89 damage!*
*T-Jack is stuck in one of Forgotten_Tower's windows!!*

 
May 28, 2009 at 4:39 AM
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VoidMage_Lowell said:
Yeah, well..uh...
..Iono...>.>;
No wait, since last you played it...
...That could be fixed =D
...Eventually...
Well, could, but didn't have to. Someone should check that...


VoidMage_Lowell said:
You know I hate that T.T
Honestly, that's half of the fun.


VoidMage_Lowell said:
Oh, stealing ideaz from me now, are we?
Hey, nothing better than when the opponent himself contributes to the theory...


VoidMage_Lowell said:
How'd he get injured when constructing Robotz?
We needs more details.
{Well, apparantly only I do....T.T}
Well, first, it's a war. Second, he needed to get the destroyed robots from somewhere, and three, he surely wasn't locked up in his laboratory for the entire War. In two words: Shit(pickle) happens.


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What?!
*VoidMage_Lowell falls backwards, disappearing into a Void Tear*
*Forgotten_Tower comes and rolls over T-Jack for 89 damage!*
*T-Jack is stuck in one of Forgotten_Tower's windows!!*

Urgh... LOWEEEEEEELLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!
 
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This is pure speculation. You have no desire to aim at any truth whatsoever. The problem with speculation is that you can "make sh*t up" when you are disproven, which manages to annoy everyone.

It is made quite obvious that Quote wasn't scrapped together due to him excelling over the soldier robots in design (as mentioned by Kazuma). Evidence suggests that the humans on the island were most likely explorers or scientists. Though this has been mentioned before, Quote and Curly never finished their mission and they look like soldier robots because they are human-like in design, which is a common trait amongst soldier-type robots.

How did Bob die after all the robots and Miakid were already dead? Why put Quote and Curly in two completely separate locations? Why didn't Curly remember Bob instead of just waking up one day surrounded by Mimigas? If a mind reset was required then why was Curly's memory recoverable and not a blank slate? If Curly's memory was recoverable then why didn't Bob finish the job and restore it after the starting process was finished? Wouldn't that suggest that Bob never finished working on Curly? Why didn't he finish Curly? Wouldn't that suggest that he finished Quote? In that case why didn't he finish Quote? Wouldn't that suggest that he finished Curly? Curly, Quote? Quote, Curly? How could Bob half-finish both robots at the same time in different locations? I sense a paradox, or a new half-baked explaination.
 
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