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Dec 8, 2008 at 7:48 PM
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Well, I don't know if the Wii does achievements, and if it does Pixel probably won't be looking at this forum for ideas, but isn't it all the rage these days to have achievements in all the new games? So lets create a list of unofficial achievements for Cave Story. First, the givens:

Don't forget the sunscreen: Reach the Sand Zone
Escape Artist: Escape the Labrynth
Natural Climber: Beat the Outer Wall
Happiness: Defeat Misery
His Own Medicine: Defeat the Doctor
The Last Battle: Defeat the Final Boss
Remember Me: Restore Curly's memories
Unworthy: Enter the Sacred Grounds
Worthy: Complete Sacred Grounds
probably a few more in that vein, including some about finding the hidden weapons

And the equally obvious:
Evasive: Beat the game with less than 25 health
Nimble: Beat the game with less than 10 health
Untouchable: Beat the game with only 3 health
Godly: Beat Sacred Grounds with only 3 health
Minimal arsenal: Beat the game with only the Polar Star, Fireball and Blade
Minimal items: Beat the game with only the Polar Star, Fireball and Blade and 3 health (for simplicity we'll ignore the life pot and other minor items)

So now we can do the fun ones:
Not Afraid: Defeat Igor without jumping or being hit (aka shooting out his projectiles. A freebie, really).
Earthbound: Defeat Curly without jumping or being hit (this requires stunning her with missiles)
Plain Foolish: Defeat the Core without jumping or being hit (or alternately with the fireball and not being hit)
Vengeance: Defeat Misery with the Blade
Ill-suited: Defeat The Sisters with the Fireball
Somewhat Quick: Beat Sacred Grounds in under 8:00
Very Quick: Beat Sacred Grounds in under 6:00
Incredibly Quick: Beat Sacred Grounds in under 4:30
Look Ma, No Feet: Beat Monster X without touching the ground (most likely requires the machinegun since he starts so far behind you and starts caring when the boss music starts. Easier with the machinegun either way.)
Pacifism: Beat Grass Zone without attacking anything except bosses.
Mad Dash: Beat the revisited Egg Corridor without attacking.
Don't Look Down: Beat the Outer Wall without the jetpack or machinegun (would necessitate adding only a single stepping stone at the very beginning). Alternately, beat the Outer Wall with the mimiga mask and no machinegun.
Very Cute: Beat the Last Cave with the mimiga mask and no machinegun.
Skill Only: Beat the Final Boss with the Polar Star.
Gone Fishing: Beat Ironhead without being hit (already gives you a badge).
As Absurd As It Sounds: Beat the boss of Sacred Grounds with the Bubbler.

More?
 
Dec 8, 2008 at 7:58 PM
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Some of those are plain outrageous XD

I don't think I could get through the sacred grounds with only three hp. Nice achievements though, I like the "Vengeance" one, pretty clever.
 
Dec 8, 2008 at 8:30 PM
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Someone's been playing too much Mega Man 9 huh.

Killer Robot: Kill 100 enemies
This guy needs to be stopped: Kill 500 enemies
Balrog? Pfft.: Defeat Balrog without being hit
Addicted to Life: Get all Life Capsules
 
Dec 8, 2008 at 9:00 PM
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Which Balrog? The last one? The first? And no, obviously I haven't completed all of those. As a side note, on further thought the monster X one would work better if you placed a single star block right at the trigger such that if you jumped on it you'd start the boss fight, so you wouldn't have to machinegun hover until he arrived and could technically beat it without the machinegun. Also, the fireball challenges need to be placed in consequetive order, so they read as such:

Ill-Suited: Defeat The Sisters with the Fireball
Poor Decision: Defeat Misery with the Fireball
Just Plain Foolish: Defeat the Core with the Fireball

And two more: Secret Finder: Obtain all items available in the regular (non-Sacred Grounds) game in one playthrough (bubbler, maxed super missiles, maxed health, the lipstick, curly's underwear, the fish and clay badges, iron bond and everything required to get to it, arms barrier, one of the chaba items and anything else I'm forgetting. Everything except the mimiga mask and the mushroom would have to be in your inventory at the time you beat the red demon to get this. Would have to ignore weapon trades) and Jack of Many Weapons: Defeat one boss using every weapon in the game (to ensure you find weapon trades).

edit: OOoh, brilliant idea for another one. Gator Bait: Lure every sandcroc in Sand Zone out of the ground (this only works if my memory's correct in that they'll never go back down unless you shoot them, even if they are moved offscreen).
 
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Brickman said:
Alternately, beat the Outer Wall with the mimiga mask and no machinegun.
Not possible, because you don't get the mimiga mask until after you've beaten the Outer Wall. I believe the Outer Wall is also unbeatable without a jetpack.

Brickman said:
Jack of Many Weapons: Defeat one boss using every weapon in the game (to ensure you find weapon trades).
Also not possible, because you cannot get every weapon in the game on a single playthrough. The machine gun, snake, and spur are mutually exclusive – you can only get one of them.

Brickman said:
Gator Bait: Lure every sandcroc in Sand Zone out of the ground (this only works if my memory's correct in that they'll never go back down unless you shoot them, even if they are moved offscreen).
Provided you don't leave the zone, yes. I don't think there are any sand crocs other than on the way to Omega, so the challenge would start when you shoot the star blocks leading into that area and end when you defeat Omega.

Unless there are sand crocs on the bottom half of the Sand Zone?
 
Dec 8, 2008 at 10:21 PM
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Well, the outer wall thing was assuming the game could recognize "start to end" as a win while having the mask. And yeah, I pointed out in that post that one missing block, which has vexed me to no end because it is literally the only place in the entire game, barring the alternate final cave and sacred grounds, that you can't do with the mimiga mask/with the jetpack off. And all it's missing is one stepping stone at the bottom where Kazuma is; if you added that one block, the whole area would be possible (you have to jump on top of the purple sandcrocs at one point to get past them, who conveniently happen to be slower than the green ones such that you have time to do so).

As for the weapon thing, I was assuming the acheivment thing would be able to keep track of that one between playthroughs, just like the "X enemies killed" ones (I assume acheivements like that hold between playthroughs). As a side note, I can only think of three bosses I can imagine completely beating with normal missiles: Omega (requires some luck), the Sisters (actually, I'd need to check, but I'm guessing you can) and Heavy Press (simply because you can have SO MANY missiles when fighting him, not to mention that he takes a lot of damage from each one since they sorta travel through him). And I find it ironic that the one of those three which would require going all the way through hell would be the easiest to use for the "beat someone with the game's second weakest weapon" challenge.
 
Dec 9, 2008 at 3:37 AM
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Hero in a rush: Beat the game without saving.
 
Dec 9, 2008 at 3:33 PM
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Atravir said:
Complete Failure: Death by Toroko
Gonna need more failure ones.
Unbelieving: Jump into deathtrap in Santa's house.
Fishfood: Death by Chinfish.
Newbie: Death in First Cave.
Just Plain Stupid: Death in Start Point.

And just to undo some of the negativity:
Those Bouncy Critters: Get the Arms Barrier without Booster or MG.
 
Dec 9, 2008 at 11:34 PM
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Good luck biatch: Beat the game without saving and 3 health.
RUSH RUSH RUSH RUSH: Beat Sacred Grounds under one minute.
Epic FAIL: Get killed by Balrog(first version).
 
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Speed Demon I: Igor in under 20 seconds
Speed Demon B: Balfrog in under 30 seconds
Speed Demon O: Omega in under 30 seconds
Speed Demon T: Toroko+ in under 40 seconds
Speed Demon L: Pooh Black in under 50 seconds
Speed Demon X: Monster X in under 120 seconds
Speed Demon C: Core in under 60 seconds
Speed Demon H: IronHead in under 20 seconds
Speed Demon S: Sisters in under 50 seconds
Speed Demon P: Ma Pigeon in under 20 seconds
Speed Demon M: Misery in under 60 seconds
Speed Demon D: Doctor in under 30 seconds
Speed Demon E: Enraged Doctor in under 15 seconds
Speed Demon U: Undead Core in under 80 seconds
Speed Demon A: Heavy Press in under 20 seconds
Speed Demon Z: Ballos in under 150 seconds
Effortless I: Igor without taking damage
Effortless B: Balfrog without taking damage
Effortless O: Omega without taking damage
Effortless T: Toroko+ without taking damage
Effortless L: Pooh Black without taking damage
Effortless X: Monster X without taking damage
Effortless C: Core without taking damage
Effortless H: IronHead without taking damage
Effortless S: Sisters without taking damage
Effortless P: Ma Pigeon without taking damage
Effortless M: Misery without taking damage
Effortless D: Doctor without taking damage
Effortless E: Enraged Doctor without taking damage
Effortless U: Undead Core without taking damage
Effortless A: Heavy Press without taking damage
Effortless Z: Ballos without taking damage

Without breaking a sweat: Never get game over
Perfectionist: Never get hit. EVER.
Beastary: Kill at least one of every enemy
Daredevil: Remain at 1HP until the end of the game, from before attaining Polar star.
0MGW7FH@X: Never attain exp.
 
Dec 10, 2008 at 6:27 AM
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Good luck biatch: Beat the game without saving and 3 health.RUSH
RUSH RUSH RUSH: Beat Sacred Grounds under one minute.
Epic FAIL: Get killed by Balrog(first version).
Come on, the idea here is to limit ourselves to challenges which are possible for a person with enough skill and patience/effort without use of cheats, hacked controllers or savestates. Better yet, challenges which we think more than five people on earth could complete under those conditions. A 3 HP run is hard but possible. Without saving is a joke. And I don't think even the turbo-controller wielding Japanese speed runners got under 2 minutes in hell.

ZarroTsu said:
Yeah, I like those, though they're not quite the normal family of acheivements they're a good checklist of challenges. I don't feel like testing all those times myself right now, but at a glance I think you gave Pooh Black a bit too much; he doesn't have very much health if you use the right weapons, and doesn't disappear for very long. Also, you seem to have left off Balrog 2 and Balrog 3 (I don't think Balrog 1 deserves to be on the list).

Of the five challenges at the bottom, Beastiary sounds exactly like an achievement should be, the last one sounds rather unfeasable (and unfun), and the other three sound like degenerative versions of the 3HP and no-saves runs.
 
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I'll post them here for convenience:
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Kill the chin fish

speak softly...
collect all the life capsules X/12

...and carry a big stick
collect all missile expansions X/5

Not that guy again!
Defeat Balrog all 5 times X/5

Army of tiny bubbles
Find the Bubbler

Burn, Baby, Burn
Kill 50 enemy's with the fireball

Little bomb maker
Help out the robot

Ladies man
Obtain Chaco's lipstick and Curly's underwear

Ballistic propelled jet pack
Obtain the machine gun

RoboDogCatcher
Return all of Jenka's dogs. X/5

Solid Pixel
Obtain the snake

Pixel's Labyrinth
Escape the Labyrinth

True friend
Save Curly

Ironhead
Get the Ikachan medal

Iron Bond
Learn Your name

(needs a new title)
Obtain the nemesis

Sticking to your guns
Obtain the spur

Vengeance
Beat the Doctor with the blade

Don't hit girls
Defeat the Undead Core without killing the minions

Never going to give you up
Beat the game without using the flowerpot

Masked Crusader
Beat the game incognito

Save yourself
Leave it all behind and escape

Save the Sakamotos
End the Doctor's horrible experiments

Save the Island
Break the curse of the island and become a true hero

EASIEST ACHIEVEMENT EVER!1!
Die 50 times in Hell X/50

Dead Pixel
Get smashed by Heavy Press

Running Hell
Beat Hell in under X minutes. [lists record]

True Hell
Beat the game and running hell without getting a single life capsule.
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True friend
No allies left behind.

Iron Bond
Prove your friendship until the bitter end.

Masked Crusader
Beat the game incognito.
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Crocodile Hunter. Kill every sand croc.
Self-Defense, Really: kill the frenzied mimiga in the high house near the gum room.
Seek Wisdom From Your Elders: talk to all the Cthulhus.
Non-Proliferation Treaty: beat the game without the missile launcher.
Jesse Owens: cross the pit before the Core without the machine gun or rocket pack.
Falling Back: get from the top of the first room in the Labyrinth without landing on anything.
Churches! Churches!: kill something with the duck.
Don't Hit Girls: defeat the undead core without killing its sidekicks.
Forgot Something?: get back down from Last Cave.
Pancake: Make it to first cave without fixing the rocket.
Ready for Hell: finish the game with full life (so you can save in the house for hell with full life)
Layer 1-3: awarded for getting into each new room in hell except the last
Depths of Hell: get to Ballos
Dead Pixel: get smashed by Heavy Press
Unbelievable: beat hell
Piece of Cake: beat hell with using just one gun, no matter what gun it is
nator_sj said:
Do Polaris Proud - Defeat all / most bosses with only the Polar Star.
Flower Power - Defeat a boss with the Fireball.
You're no mother - Defeat Curly without hitting her children.
That Empty Feeling - Defeat a boss with 3 weapons at level 1.
Off to a Bad Start - Get killed by a fishing pole.
Don't Hold Your Breath - Nearly Drown.
A Lover, Not a Fighter - Pass up a fight.
Careful Footing - Naivgate the Outer Wall without any boost.
 
Dec 10, 2008 at 10:18 AM
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Here's parts of the Cave Story achievement list that crossed my mind-

(I might be repeating some previously posted, since I haven't looked though the idea list, yet... Also, this list was originally made as an Xbox 360 achievement list, which explains the GamerScore #'s at the end of the descriptions, as well as the <Secret> tags, which don't reveal the description until you unlock the achievement)


6. Night vision (Retrieve Shinobu from the dark deserted house in the Sand Zone without using the Map System. 20)

12. Speed is of the essence (Get the missiles in Egg Observation Room? and escape before the Dragon Sisters arrive. 20)

18. The more the merrier (Get the redemption ending without returning Mr. Little to his house. <Secret> 100)

20. You can't hit me (Defeat the Core without picking up any Life Capsules in the game. <Secret> 100)

21. Still can't hit me (Defeat Undead Core without picking up any Life Capsules in the game. <Secret> 100)

24. uber 1337 discovery (Find the hidden 4th ending. 0)
 
Dec 10, 2008 at 3:13 PM
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24. uber 1337 discovery (Find the hidden 4th ending. 0)

That was THE failure.
 
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For obtaining the nemesis, the title should be "Chosen of the Goddess" or something like that.
 
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Defeat Balrog all 5 times X/5

But... there's only 4 Balrog instances...
 
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