Cave Story ~ The Eternal Chaos

Uh..no it's not...you have no copyright over it, and he's not making any profit off of it. What's the big deal? If what you say was true then you could be sued by Pixel.

Besides, this is off topic.

 

Uh..no it's not...you have no copyright over it, and he's not making any profit off of it. What's the big deal? If what you say was true then you could be sued by Pixel.

Besides, this is off topic.

Copyright? The maker of the image has automaticly got the copyright.
It's just using images and don't asking before nothing more nothing less it isn't ok and its really enough now don't wanna talk the whole fucking time about this
And yes Pixel could sue us all D:

And it isn't offtopic it has to do with this mod, it's just a warning nothing more.

Edit: Yes we copied Pixel but it is a game, and our working are mods, mods are usally copies, mods are mods and games are games. Copying things from one game to another isn't ok like copying things from one mod to another

 

トピックのハイジャック!!!

............--~洞窟の物語: 永遠の無秩序~--

ゲームの人々:
(Characters[Playable])

( 英雄 )

( 会社 )

(Cross-Edge)
(Crossblade)
(Kreuzblatt)
(十字の刃 )

 

Woah.... nice.

 

Looks good, I don't know why you use other peoeple's images
You could make awesome at your own.

 

SP- Stop. Grow up and stop trying to start an argument in every topic you post in.

Z- Very nice looking.

 

yeah REALLY AWESOME
wish i could draw that good

lol caps

 

SP- Stop. Grow up and stop trying to start an argument in every topic you post in.

It's a forum, I can as start as many arguments as I want, try yourself grow up and learn that And using other peoples my words to confirm your own arguments instead of asking what they meant isn't very nice...
However offtopic.

It was an advice, you don't have to understand that, because it was for ZTaimat.

Because making own sprites instead of using other people ones would it make more unique And I think this would be great sprites

 

There's a fine line between giving too much advice and being a repetitive *******. Could you please try to not use the following words?: copying, other, peoples, work, unoriginal. Unless of course you're trying to say: "Wow! Your work is worth copying!", or "Other work pales in comparison.", or maybe "Peoples like youz iz kewl.", or perhaps "I almost feel completely unoriginal." -- Other than that, we got your point a long time ago. Overkill is difference between being a sage and being a ****.~

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Can't you make a post without swearing?
- ShInInG PhAnToM

 

There's a fine line between giving too much advice and being a repetitive *******. Could you please try to not use the following words?: copying, other, peoples, work, unoriginal. Unless of course you're trying to say: "Wow! Your work is worth copying!", or "Other work pales in comparison.", or maybe "Peoples like youz iz kewl.", or perhaps "I almost feel completely unoriginal." -- Other than that, we got your point a long time ago. Overkill is difference between being a sage and being a ****.~

First of all: Please no swearing. Don't say things like **** or *******

Could you please try to not use the following words?: copying, other, peoples, work, unoriginal.

It's a free forum and that words aren't bad.

Anyhow it's just a style mix, why don't make your own so you have your own style, I think your sprites could be much better than other peoples ones. It was an advice nothing more, but you seem to be just overacting it wasn't meant bad. <_<
If you got my point you just could post that like: "I know phantom but we won't thanks for this advice , but you don't need to post that here anymore ok? " Instead of using words like **** or *******, which can be very offending, I've never sued you for using the images thought... ugh...

 

This is becoming an argument board... Can we please respect each other's opinions without saying, "NO! THAT'S HORRIBLE!" or "You shouldn't do that, it's bad and you should stop." It's not pleasant to be here whilst people attack each other's opinions.

 

This is becoming an argument board... Can we please respect each other's opinions without saying, "NO! THAT'S HORRIBLE!" or "You shouldn't do that, it's bad and you should stop." It's not pleasant to be here whilst people attack each other's opinions.

Never said that, I didn't said he have to, or it's bad, or he have to stop. I just said it would be cool nothing more. I respect that if he won't do it, it was just an advice.

 

It doesn't matter if the "advice" is good or bad. That's not the point. We're tired of hearing the same "advice" over and over.

And you're right, you prove that you can be just as offensive without cursing. Good job.

Anyway, problem solved.

 

It doesn't matter if the "advice" is good or bad. That's not the point. We're tired of hearing the same "advice" over and over.

It was the secound time I made this advice, it was because you was posting that very nice looking images. And I thought you can make better ones

The first time was this:

Well, this doesn't mean the mod is bad, it's cool but it isn't special to use images of other people and I would LOVE to see making YOUR OWN images and don't use other people images or use them as a base for own images.

Anyhow, 2 times really isn't that much.

And you're right, you prove that you can be just as offensive without cursing. Good job.

Oh dude... You can't be friendly can you?
Just because you're pissed or offended, you don't have to be all rude.
I'm sorry if I pissed you off, but just stop that, don't want to break the community apart.

Anyway, problem solved.

I never said it was a problem. It was an advice...

Looks amazing
Nicely made.

 

I can't stand this. I'm leaving these forums.

 

I can't stand this. I'm leaving these forums.

Great, the community is breaking apart like in a forum I was before...
People misunderstanding other peoples post resulting in being unfriendly and things.

No, its my fault I was being a idoit. The subject was fatal.

Better me stop being a mod and leaving the forums, than you.

 

If I may intervene in this a bit as the Forum Administrator as I would prefer for debates such as this to not take place at this community that is designed to have people work together on projects and just have a good time playing Cave Story, Mods, Developments, et cetera.

Now before I begin with this, I would like to say that I appointed Shining Phantom as a moderator here because I know he has helped me out during many instances in which I needed help with such as several forum related fixes. I also knew that he would be active at the forums and would do a good job monitoring the forums and keeping the forum Spam free.

The one thing about Shining Phantom that I've noticed is that under the banner of being a moderator here I believe he feels it is his duty to be strict in his approach to guard the integrity of these forums. In these recent issues regarding "theft" of modded works and such, I believe he has felt it has been his duty to try to prevent and solve this issue and as a moderator it is his right to do so. Shining Phantom has done nothing wrong by this, however I believe that this situation of modded work copyrights and such has become too large for just Shining Phantom to handle and in his doing so, the community has become a bit too wound up over this issue and it feels like several rules and regulations have been tightly implemented and regulated.

I would like to tell you my personal stance on how I see this issue and how and what I think we should do about it going forward. However I'm always open to suggestions. Personally I am not a fan of people using copyrighted material without permission, however in the case of Cave Story, the only copyrighted material is in fact Doukutsu Monogatari that belongs solely to Pixel. Edited graphics and mods are indeed the property of one's own work, but legally they are not copyrighted because of the means in which they were distributed via the internet, which means basically it belongs to the Public Domain unless the content becomes officially copyrighted and then released with a copyright statement. So the only real thing that can be done about these types of issues is to either let it ride and just chalk things up as misunderstandings or the sharing of content and information or to flame one another over work that is believe to have been created by someone else. It's a very tough decision to make regarding these issues, but I believe it is in the best interests of everyone here going forward to adhere to the following proposal. And I must apologize for the blunt approach to this explanation.

"If you develop a Cave Story mod and use your own graphics and decide to allow visitors to this site the ability to view and play your mod, then you understand that your mod, effort and artwork therein is at risk of being used by someone else. In the event that you believe someone has taken without permission, ideas, artwork and code from a mod that you have originally created, no one is liable but yourself, the author of the mod who made the decision to allow people to download it in the first place."

Now I hope ShadowFire sees this before he decides to leave and hopefully decides to stay, but if he does decide to go that is his decision to make just as it is for all of us.

-SkyeWelse

 

It's not a question of legality, though. That's not really the issue. It's purely moral. Basically, it's a touch subject, and should really be left alone.

SkyeWelse: You should probably sticky something like that.

 

Well I wouldn't feel good if someone uses my work without even asking or crediting
And I don't know how I would react if someone has a download link, with his mod who is using my images without asking

 

"If you develop a Cave Story mod and use your own graphics and decide to allow visitors to this site the ability to view and play your mod, then you understand that your mod, effort and artwork therein is at risk of being used by someone else. In the event that you believe someone has taken without permission, ideas, artwork and code from a mod that you have originally created, no one is liable but yourself, the author of the mod who made the decision to allow people to download it in the first place."

This is a proposal for now and not what I'm setting the rules for at the moment. I wanted to get feedback on this first. Perhaps I'll create a poll later and people can decide on the whole of the community as the best means of handling this issue.

-SkyeWelse