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What happened to the Red Crystal?

Jan 18, 2011 at 6:04 PM
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But that's just a mod.
 
Jan 18, 2011 at 6:09 PM
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magic9mushroom said:
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I smell a potential fan-fiction sequel...

So not "potential". "Actual". :p
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But that's just a mod.
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What do you mean just a mod? Is jenka's nightmare not a fan-fiction sequel?
 
Jan 18, 2011 at 6:34 PM
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What do you mean just a mod? Is jenka's nightmare not a fan-fiction sequel?

This.
 
Jan 19, 2011 at 9:57 AM
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Is this straying from the point "What happened to the Red Crystal?"?
 
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Cavehacker101 said:
Is this straying from the point "What happened to the Red Crystal?"?

No, it is not. It's talking about one possible theory, ie "The Red Crystal is still merged with Sue, just latent".
 
Jan 19, 2011 at 10:23 AM
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ok

I still think that the Crystal got lost into the depths of the black space.
 
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Cavehacker101 said:
ok

I still think that the Crystal got lost into the depths of the black space.

Indeed, this is a possibility that has been noted.
 
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The powers of the crown come from Ballos, and due to the link between red flowers and the crown it is likely that the powers of the red flowers stem (get it) from Ballos as well. Since Ballos is only able to drag the island to the ground upon the Core's destruction it is likely that the Core restricts his use of magic. Once the Core was destroyed Ballos was likely no longer bound by the crown or much else for that matter, rendering the crown, flowers and crystal useless (in theory). In either ending there would be no more crown bearers or red flowers since Ballos would either be free (normal ending) or dead (sacred grounds ending).
 
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andwhyisit said:
The powers of the crown come from Ballos, and due to the link between red flowers and the crown

It's uncertain whether such a link exists. The only thing in the game pointing to it is that the Doctor is capable of controlling frenzied Mimigas, which could well be simply because of the Crown being powerful.

Kazuma talks about a link with the Core, but the Core and the Demon Crown are totally separate.

it is likely that the powers of the red flowers stem (get it) from Ballos as well.

Not particularly likely.

Since Ballos is only able to drag the island to the ground upon the Core's destruction it is likely that the Core restricts his use of magic.

This is likely.

Once the Core was destroyed Ballos was likely no longer bound by the crown

Ballos wasn't ever bound by the Crown. Misery was the one cursed by the Crown. Ballos created it, his soul infuses it, and in a reversal of the One Ring situation, he's still the part with all the power.

or much else for that matter, rendering the crown, flowers and crystal useless (in theory).

The Crown is indeed rendered useless by Ballos's death. The flowers and crystal may have been rendered useless by the Core's destruction, but Kazuma's probably less reliable than the Doctor as a source of information.

In either ending there would be no more crown bearers or red flowers since Ballos would either be free (normal ending) or dead (sacred grounds ending).

Ballos was trying to commit suicide by smashing the island into the ground in Sue's ending as well, so yes, he would be dead either way.

But him being free would have nothing to do with depowering the Demon Crown. It's Misery that's bound to the Crown.
 
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Maybe Sue is now the most powerful mimiga on the island.:sue::)
Either that, or the crystal broke or something.
I'm not really the one to ask. Not like anyone did, though...
 
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Voyce said:
probably destroyed in the ruins of the core room.

The thing can take a full blast from the Spur. I doubt some rocks would have affected it.
 
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magic9mushroom said:
The thing can take a full blast from the Spur.
while merged with the Doctor (and through him, the Demon Crown).
 
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Shadow Major said:
After you beat the Undead Core, what happened to it? Did it get destroyed too? Or could it be safely nestled somewhere on the Island since the Doctor was defeated?

I think it went BOOM:awesomeface:
 
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Yeah, there was that thing with the MASSIVE EXPLOSION reserved only for the destruction of Omega, the Undead Core and Ballos.
 
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hammil said:
Yeah, there was that thing with the MASSIVE EXPLOSION reserved only for the destruction of Omega, the Undead Core and Ballos.

Monster X and the Sisters also have the massive explosion.
 
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= every big monster/mech in the game, and the sisters for teh lulz
 
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Malpercio said:
= every big monster/mech in the game, and the sisters for teh lulz

Yeah, having the Sisters explode makes no sense whatsoever.
 
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