Want to start a collab....

Nov 19, 2008 at 2:25 AM
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Recently with all the modding that I have done, I decided that I've wanted to make a bigger mod, but I can't do it myself. If anyone has any ideas, or would like to be a part of this nonetheless, please post here. Also, storyline is pretty much open right now, so this would be a good time to get your ideas out in the open.

People we (If i get some people it'll be "we") need are:

-Writers (for the story)
-Artists (for the tiles/sprites/backgrounds)
-composers (for the music)
-Modders (for the scripting/maps)

So if anyone's interested, please post here.


Also, this does not mean i'm canceling my current mod, wtfstory, but it's just something i'd like to do on the side.
 
Nov 19, 2008 at 2:58 AM
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GIRakaCHEEZER said:
Recently with all the modding that I have done, I decided that I've wanted to make a bigger mod, but I can't do it myself. If anyone has any ideas, or would like to be a part of this nonetheless, please post here. Also, storyline is pretty much open right now, so this would be a good time to get your ideas out in the open.

People we (If i get some people it'll be "we") need are:

-Writers (for the story)
-Artists (for the tiles/sprites/backgrounds)
-composers (for the music)
-Modders (for the scripting/maps)

So if anyone's interested, please post here.


Also, this does not mean i'm canceling my current mod, wtfstory, but it's just something i'd like to do on the side.
I am full of ideas for a Cave Story prequel starring King. Problem is that I never had enough time to devote to making it myself. Basically it will tell of the red flower war and the rise of Miakid through the eyes of King.

I'll get my ideas onto paper in note form and present them to you if you want.

For someone to flesh out the story, I would suggest Kage.
 
Nov 19, 2008 at 3:12 AM
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JacobX891 said:
You need story?! If you're starting a huge mod, doesn't that mean you have a story already?! I mean, I only have one room done in 'Project King' and no scripting, and yet I have all the dialouge, storyline, and a map.

Write a story. Then we will know what it's about and whether we agree with the plot. Of course, by 'we' I mean 'whoever is thinking rationally about how a thread for a mod without a plot is basically a message board of ideas'.

Which we already have.


The reason I have no story is simply because, Im not so good at writing them (Meaning I want other's to help write them)

Like take Andwhyisit's idea for example, I'd be up to making a mod like that.

andwhyisit said:
I'll get my ideas onto paper in note form and present them to you if you want.

For someone to flesh out the story, I would suggest Kage.

Yeah that sounds like a good idea. Write 'em down.
 
Nov 19, 2008 at 3:37 AM
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innocent.bystander said:
I have pages of story for two Cave Story prequels if anyone wants 'em.

I'll take what I can get.

By the way, that's a yes to your offer.
 
Nov 19, 2008 at 5:16 AM
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I'm so tired... I've been sleeping badly... and I think I'm getting sick too, even as I type this. So I would love to be to just write something and not do much modding work, once you have an idea of what you want. I have had a couple of ideas that don't relate to what I'm working on... like, say, a pseudo-sequel in the version Curly wasn't saved, where she gets revived some time later and has to piece things together. It would be sad though. Very sad.
If you want something more upbeat that's fine. Personally I've long wanted to do more exploring of the WORLD of Cave Story as opposed to just the island. No mod to my knowledge has really done this to any degree. But yeah I agree with Jacob, some basic idea of what is actually desired would be nice (sequel/prequel, CS/original, etc).
I could try and make some music too if you tell me what kind of theme you want for an area, maybe at a later stage.
Just a word of advice - keep the design team small, since every other project that has had more than a couple of people working on it has failed, either due to lack of interest, too much work spread out over too many people, or Pixel himself speaking against it (seems he doesn't like big projects that are sequels/prequels). I'm not pooping on your party, but trust me, it will never get done if it's another ALL HANDS ON DECK thing.
 
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DoubleThink said:
I'm so tired... I've been sleeping badly... and I think I'm getting sick too, even as I type this. So I would love to be to just write something and not do much modding work, once you have an idea of what you want. I have had a couple of ideas that don't relate to what I'm working on... like, say, a pseudo-sequel in the version Curly wasn't saved, where she gets revived some time later and has to piece things together. It would be sad though. Very sad.
If you want something more upbeat that's fine. Personally I've long wanted to do more exploring of the WORLD of Cave Story as opposed to just the island. No mod to my knowledge has really done this to any degree. But yeah I agree with Jacob, some basic idea of what is actually desired would be nice (sequel/prequel, CS/original, etc).
I could try and make some music too if you tell me what kind of theme you want for an area, maybe at a later stage.
Just a word of advice - keep the design team small, since every other project that has had more than a couple of people working on it has failed, either due to lack of interest, too much work spread out over too many people, or Pixel himself speaking against it (seems he doesn't like big projects that are sequels/prequels). I'm not pooping on your party, but trust me, it will never get done if it's another ALL HANDS ON DECK thing.

Tell you the truth, I plan to keep the team small (or else just deal with the content that might be missing due to people's lack of work), and as for story, right now im just looking for ideas, cuz I have no clue where I'm going to go with this story, but I'm seeing somethings that I like on this thread. Right now though, I'm leaning towards a story-line dealing with the prequel and the "flower wars", but I won't be sure until I see some of the prequel ideas that "Andwhyisit" and "innocentbystand" have. No idea about who the main character would be tho, so Ima sleep on it.
 
Nov 19, 2008 at 8:35 AM
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I have an idea for a prequel. Though Ive already posted this before. Don't know if you saw it.

It takes part near the end of the war starting a Sargent (I know it use to say general but after some thought I changed it) who soon came to commanding three robots known as Curly, Quote, and another character who needs a name! (How exciting xD) Some of the events that happen through out the story will be Curly's and Quote's downfall (though as many know they won't actually die), the Mimiga's consumption of the red flowers, The death of Arther, and an idea of how king got his red eyes. I "may" be able to write it. But I find myself having trouble with another story I'm writing. (stupid W. block) Though this might actually help with that W. block. (if I try writing I mean)

As for music I don't know if I have what you want but ill try if possible.

xD peace xD
 
Nov 19, 2008 at 11:44 AM
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Erm... Well no offence but we've had many threads about collab mods but in the end they all failed. D:

I'm not exactly sure if I should commit myself to this because I'm afraid it might fail just like the rest =/

If you can guarantee that this doesn't die along the way though, I won't mind being a scriptor.

Edit (after reading into more detail the posts before this) -

Must all collab mods be based on the existing story of Cave Story? I mean, we're never had a collab mod based on some completely new concept =/
 
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Metalogz said:
Must all collab mods be based on the existing story of Cave Story? I mean, we're never had a collab mod based on some completely new concept =/

No, actually I was never planning to base it on the plot of Cave Story itself, but that's where everyone seemed to want to write about....
Tell you the truth I don't like messing too much with the "Cave Story world" pixel has built, as is reflected in my mods.
 
Nov 19, 2008 at 2:11 PM
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Does it have to be CS-related or maybe a random mod? Coz I have a semi-epic idea not based on Pixel's universe I'm willing to share (if you promise not to quit after a month, that is =/).
 
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Eh, I can make pictures.

Feel free to use any of the several spritesheets that I made but were never used.

Like this one:
diph.php


Core AI, but I suppose you can modify the sheet to work for Undead Core.

The projectiles suck, though. I'm not very good at special effects. The hands are also kinda the wrong angle.
 
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GIRakaCHEEZER said:
No, actually I was never planning to base it on the plot of Cave Story itself, but that's where everyone seemed to want to write about....
Tell you the truth I don't like messing too much with the "Cave Story world" pixel has built, as is reflected in my mods.
Don't worry. I stick to Pixel's material and in-game backstory as much as humanly possible with my prequel ideas while filling in the blanks.

Sorry I didn't get the chance to write down my notes last night (got home late), I'll get them to you when I have the chance to sit down and write them out.

p.s. Core is not the final boss, or even a boss at all for that matter.
 
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GIRakaCHEEZER said:
No, actually I was never planning to base it on the plot of Cave Story itself, but that's where everyone seemed to want to write about....
Tell you the truth I don't like messing too much with the "Cave Story world" pixel has built, as is reflected in my mods.
S'all good, I think original ideas are just harder to come by in general. Trouble is if you want a not-CS type mod all we can really do is just bounce ideas around until one of them sticks. Maybe some idea of what genre at least? Fantasy? Technological? War simulator? Earthbound? Steampunk? Err... space marines?
I'm feeling a bit better too (false start methinks), so maybe I can be more productive :D
 
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S'all good, I think original ideas are just harder to come by in general. Trouble is if you want a not-CS type mod all we can really do is just bounce ideas around until one of them sticks. Maybe some idea of what genre at least? Fantasy? Technological? War simulator? Earthbound? Steampunk? Err... space marines?
I'm feeling a bit better too (false start methinks), so maybe I can be more productive :D
Despite being a prequel, I will be keeping my ideas as original and well tied to cave story's in-game history as possible.
 
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I'd be happy to help with music, scripting, or storyline, although I think I'll wait until we basically know what the mod is going to be about, and get a general idea of where it's going before I get involved.
 
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And now it's time for... DT making up a story from scratch!!!

-Guy is situated at an exploration outpost in an as-yet unexplored area of the game world, preparing for a routine expedition.
-Expedition begins, Guy eventually becomes separated from group. Following protocol, he heads back to the outpost, but runs into some mechanical creature on the way back.
-Defeats said creature, returns to the outpost, finds the one guy they left there isn't there anymore. He sends a message through to home base or whatever and then turns in for the night.
-A big electrical storm happens during the night, part of the roof is torn off and Guy is sucked out into the storm.
-Guy wakes up IN A VAGUELY DIFFERENT WORLD! WOO SCARY. He stumbles around for a while before running into a village of as-yet undefined creatures.
-He stays there a short while to study things, then decides he needs to return and report his findings. He's given directions to the dimensional rift type thing and heads there.
-He finds his way home, and returns to the damaged outpost to find law enforcement personnel there. Turns out the rest of the expedition had vanished, as had the guy on duty at the outpost.
-He tries to explain things, but when he reveals that he may have caused the electrical storm, he is deemed partially responsible for the incident and escorted ultimately to a court hearing.
-Nobody believes his story, but he is found to be innocent, on the condition that he never speaks of his experience in any professional environment again (outside of medical instances). He is relegated to a desk job in the city.
-Many years later, the world has changed somewhat. There is a worldwide power shortage, which has stunted the growth of electronic technologies. The area where the outpost used to stand has long since been explored properly, and nothing has been discovered that fits Guy's story other than some charred metal remains.
-A young lady is working in the government's data archives when a blackout occurs. By candlelight, she stumbles upon an old office that is up for renovations, and finds Guy's diary in there. Upon reading it, she finds out his story, and then true adventure begins...

There, that's just off the top of my head. This is just one idea, like I said, a genre would be really helpful...
I'm hoping you're still intending to go ahead with this project since I'm actually interested in this one :(
 
Nov 26, 2008 at 6:05 AM
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DoubleThink said:
And now it's time for... DT making up a story from scratch!!!

-Guy is situated at an exploration outpost in an as-yet unexplored area of the game world, preparing for a routine expedition.
-Expedition begins, Guy eventually becomes separated from group. Following protocol, he heads back to the outpost, but runs into some mechanical creature on the way back.
-Defeats said creature, returns to the outpost, finds the one guy they left there isn't there anymore. He sends a message through to home base or whatever and then turns in for the night.
-A big electrical storm happens during the night, part of the roof is torn off and Guy is sucked out into the storm.
-Guy wakes up IN A VAGUELY DIFFERENT WORLD! WOO SCARY. He stumbles around for a while before running into a village of as-yet undefined creatures.
-He stays there a short while to study things, then decides he needs to return and report his findings. He's given directions to the dimensional rift type thing and heads there.
-He finds his way home, and returns to the damaged outpost to find law enforcement personnel there. Turns out the rest of the expedition had vanished, as had the guy on duty at the outpost.
-He tries to explain things, but when he reveals that he may have caused the electrical storm, he is deemed partially responsible for the incident and escorted ultimately to a court hearing.
-Nobody believes his story, but he is found to be innocent, on the condition that he never speaks of his experience in any professional environment again (outside of medical instances). He is relegated to a desk job in the city.
-Many years later, the world has changed somewhat. There is a worldwide power shortage, which has stunted the growth of electronic technologies. The area where the outpost used to stand has long since been explored properly, and nothing has been discovered that fits Guy's story other than some charred metal remains.
-A young lady is working in the government's data archives when a blackout occurs. By candlelight, she stumbles upon an old office that is up for renovations, and finds Guy's diary in there. Upon reading it, she finds out his story, and then true adventure begins...

There, that's just off the top of my head. This is just one idea, like I said, a genre would be really helpful...
I'm hoping you're still intending to go ahead with this project since I'm actually interested in this one :(
Sounds interesting. Can you give us more specifics about the two worlds?

Also can you have the mod be playable across both worlds (like with gurumin).
 
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Well gosh I haven't thought of that much :(
The other world wouldn't be different world so much as a different 'part' of the normal world. There would be a time when the character travelled to the other world again as the plot allowed it, but it wouldn't be freely possible to just switch worlds at any time if that's what you mean. Non-linearity doesn't really suit CS modding...
This is still just one idea mind you, I can churn these things out by the bucketload.
 
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Well gosh I haven't thought of that much :(
The other world wouldn't be different world so much as a different 'part' of the normal world. There would be a time when the character travelled to the other world again as the plot allowed it, but it wouldn't be freely possible to just switch worlds at any time if that's what you mean. Non-linearity doesn't really suit CS modding...
This is still just one idea mind you, I can churn these things out by the bucketload.
You still need that free exploration thing that most metroidvania titles have. Best to make both worlds freely accessible late into the story.

And this is a good idea if you are prepared to build upon it.

Oh, and if you need to bounce ideas off of someone, I am here.
 
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