Poll: Org Competitions?

Would you participate in a frequent Org Making competition?

  • My idea is superior and I wish to share it below.

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  • Competition scares me. How about some sort of thread to Show Off Your Org Music?

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Feb 3, 2013 at 6:12 PM
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I also agree that compositions and transcriptions should be separate. It's one thing to have the skill to transcribe a song, but another to come up with an idea that is entirely original.

Would a composition based off another composition (a variation) count as a transcription or can they be entered as original songs if the theme is not so obviously recognizable?
 
Feb 4, 2013 at 4:21 AM
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In my opinion, if the originality of Organyas matter the most, then there should be two competitions: one for original compositions, and one for transcriptions.

But as what you have said, I am having a feeling if the two competitions do start, there would be more entries to the latter.

Let's just say there comes a time when ONLY transcriptions are accepted. Composing originals are more challenging, obviously, and we should encourage people at least to compose their original songs.
 
Feb 4, 2013 at 4:49 AM
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Fuck transcriptions. No one will be able to accurately judge because people get different reactions to songs and will think differently of them. Also even if it's hard no one will care about an 8-bit remix of a song.

Just stick with comps. If you guys wanna grow and become better musics, then you should try composing your own song trying to fit the goal of the competition. In other words with absolute purpose.
 
Feb 4, 2013 at 5:05 PM
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Yeah I'm in the boat with Matt on this one. I think we should leave transpositions to the Org Music thread.

Maybe have a transposition theme once in a while, like I said before.
At the end of the day, transposing takes an entirely different skillset compared to composing. I think that isn't really fair to the people who spend a month creating new music, where other people just googled sheet music and just followed the instructions.
Not to say transposing is devoid of skill, but composing is generally a lot more difficult.
 
Feb 4, 2013 at 6:51 PM
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The issue is, you can't clearly pick a wine for a transcription contest. Everyone has bias's and everyone will be looking for different things in them. You'd end Up With The votes mostly scattered With No clear results.

Actual remixing would be a better idea. You can judge that. You can see who does best to make something interesting from a different tune.
 
Feb 4, 2013 at 7:24 PM
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Everyone has bias's and everyone will be looking for different things in them. You'd end Up With The votes mostly scattered With No clear results.
I feel this is somewhat of an invalid argument against transcriptions, since the same applies to original compositions too. Also what is with the random capitalization in that second sentence?

The main problem with transcriptions I'd say is that it would result in a lack of variety among the songs. It would be harder to judge since the differences would be somewhat insignificant, or just plain old non-existant.
 
Feb 4, 2013 at 9:40 PM
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GIRakaCHEEZER said:
I feel this is somewhat of an invalid argument against transcriptions, since the same applies to original compositions too. Also what is with the random capitalization in that second sentence?
If no one's heard your original composition before, no one's looking for a feeling they got when they first heard it.

I was on my phone. Fuck phones.
 
Feb 4, 2013 at 10:23 PM
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HyMyNameIsMatt said:
If no one's heard your original composition before, no one's looking for a feeling they got when they first heard it.

I was on my phone. Fuck phones.
But with a theme, they might indeed be looking for a feeling. And some people have natural dispositions to songs that carry a certain feeling than other songs. So it could just as easily apply to original compositions.

EDIT: Wait, are you talking about invoking nostalgia?
 
Feb 4, 2013 at 11:49 PM
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Essentially if you like song X and someone transcribes song X, wouldn't you be biased?
What about song Y? You've never heard the original before. It may be the greatest transcription ever and you wouldn't know.
What about song U? Near-perfect transcription, but it's a song that's a lot easier to transcribe than song W.
What about song W? Not the best transcription, but it's a song that's a lot harder to transcribe than song U.

Judging transcribed music will almost always be unfair.
 
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andwhyisit said:
Essentially if you like song X and someone transcribes song X, wouldn't you be biased?
What about song Y? You've never heard the original before. It may be the greatest transcription ever and you wouldn't know.
What about song U? Near-perfect transcription, but it's a song that's a lot easier to transcribe than song W.
What about song W? Not the best transcription, but it's a song that's a lot harder to transcribe than song U.

Judging transcribed music will almost always be unfair.
Oh I thought for transcribed orgs, the competition would be that we'd be given a specific song to transcribe. Otherwise yeah then it'd totally be unfair.
 
Feb 5, 2013 at 4:47 AM
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Yes. Also the challenges should probably be to invoke a feeling. Considering that's the thing music does.
 
Feb 5, 2013 at 5:52 AM
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HyMyNameIsMatt said:
Yes. Also the challenges should probably be to invoke a feeling. Considering that's the thing music does.
Feeling seems a bit vague. I've liked some of the themes that the pxtone collab had though, like "Hometown" and "Box". Those seemed like interesting themes.
 
Feb 5, 2013 at 6:10 AM
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I think Tig source has had a few interesting ones. Last theme they did was "Hot" which got some varied and interesting results. Of course, they aren't doing orgs, but same principle.
 
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