N.E.T. Story (A Cave Story Mod) =Big Update Coming!=

Aug 1, 2015 at 9:17 PM
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Brayconn said:
I like it so far!
Only problems I saw were:
-King's facepic looks a bit off, with the smiley face and blushes. Take away the angry eyes maybe?
-Gravekeeper is a bit uh... clueless? Not threatening? Derpy? Word?
-That spot just above Mahin looks a bit off compared to everything else. I would suggest using rock instead of uh... metal wall thing.
(Or, if you insist on using metal, try darkening it a bit to match the "background tone" of the rock)
-And I still don't understand why the path to the balcony is one way... If I made it up there one way what's stopping me the other way?!

Other than those, it's looking good!
-I tried taking away the angry eyes... Eww. I'll give it another shot if you want.
-The gravekeeper isn't meant to be threatening, this is before he went crazy.
-The spot above Mahin to is going to be a house.
-The balcony may not even be in 2.0, if so it will be quite different.

Miccs said:
It looks good, can't wait to see the update done.
King's face only looks a little silly.
Thanks, in my opinion Toroko's facepic needs some work too.
EDIT: 200th post.

Stuff about the development of the mod:
Arthur's sprite is based off this fan art: http://fahrenheight.deviantart.com/art/Cave-Story-Arthur-146109564
Arthur's sprite is a modified version of the shovel brigade, as he was originally going to be the shovel brigade, but then I realised I didn't have a generic mimmiga to use at which point he replaced the flipped Megane sprite.
The grave-keeper ISNT the grave keeper, he's actually the Giant Pignon, all it's damage and health was removed and I turned off the 'shootable' option.
 
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I only just now remembered that N.E.T. Story existed, and decided to give it a go. Something something mod notes:

fashionably late by at least 60 days

having the mod default to fullscreen upon start-up is not okay

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>mod begins with chat algorithm
i don't have a good feeling about this

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oh god damnit

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there should be a comma between "Toroko" and "have"

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there should be a space before "No"

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why does my man sandaime never get blessed with altered dialogue in these "Cave Story, but Slightly Different" mods?

wow mahin way to be a dick
also when he says "*grumble grumble*" when you talk to him for the first time, the text doesn't wait for any input from the player before ending itself

literally where are the save points
what if i drown in the reservoir

oh arthur's house is unlocked
ok

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why can't i go back through the crack
why is this even here in the first place
it just juts randomly out of the wall

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there needs to be a space before "and", and there's a random space in between the lines for no reason

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ok how was i supposed to know that i had to trigger toroko not with a silver pendant, but by interacting with the computer in Arthur's House several times?

who am i

this remix of balrog's theme isn't too great, to be honest

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wait where did toroko go

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how do i know the name of this mysterious brave little toaster when it didn't even introduce itself?

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you're doing a kinda bad job of hinting at where to go
i just randomly interacted with this again after wandering around and it reconnected

why did the music randomly cut out

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my parents taught me not to meet with strangers i meet online

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no means no

wow ok fine i'll meet you in what is probably unedited sand zone

i didn't screenshot most of it, but a lot of the dialogue involving the computer requires better grammar and punctuation

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needs a space after the ellipses etc. etc.

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wow would you look at that
i was right

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hello not curly
also "You" shouldn't be capitalized

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excuse you
i only have a polar star

luckily i'm a professional polar star user

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christ you're even more forward than curly was about weapon trading

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why would you hide a savepoint like this
i only shot it out of boredom while passing by

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oh god why did you put water in the walls
not curly why

platforming behind the walls is literal cancer
why the fuck

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this took entirely too long to achieve

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>damp
l-lewd

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ehehehe

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no because this is LITERALLY CAVE STORY

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i know i just spent 15 minutes trying to find her panties within the walls of her house
but why am i suddenly dating not curly

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10/10 guidance

ok
lemme just give this girl i bested in combat not even half an hour ago a sharp fang as a present to seduce her
surely this will work

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how is this woman so turned on by sharp beast fangs

ok did i just move into arthur's house
i'm confused

all these missiles
and no launcher to launch them with

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what

so it's basically igor, but different
but he doesn't have a walking animation
w-why

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lokie?
lokie??
you probably meant "loki"
but
loki???

what is with people and using only computers to talk to me

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why does this give me a bad feeling

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doesn't look very imprisoned to me
tbh

why the random awkward pause between mentioning misery and telling me to talk to him when ready

the entire plantation is a gigantic waste of space
there's nowhere to go except the little alcove where not curly is

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what the god damn shit fuck is that facepic

i love how i only have 10 hp
and how almost anything kills me in one hit
i'm just joking it's horrible

it's also horrible how i have to sit through this dialogue and awkward pause whenever i want to try again

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digested????????

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oh uh
thanks
i guess skipping it didn't matter after all

>instantly teleport back to Arthur's House
how and why

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what test???

>3, 6, 7, and 10 are approved
but what does it mean

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have i been playing a dating sim this whole time

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why did i appear here
i have so many questions

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but why tho

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why would she want something as dangerous as a red flower
in the middle of mimiga village
i don't

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why put quotes around "you"
also she didn't even seem to want the demon flower
why did i give it to her then?????

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good question
i certainly have no fucking idea what's going on anymore

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these guys just popped out of thin air

what is with you and map system-less wall mazes
they're nothing but cancer
stop

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wow rude i could've died in there

random omega is both random and dead
but why all these -10 spikes
are they really necessary when i have exactly 10hp

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excuse you

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u wot m8
demon flower or no, that shouldn't do much unless she's a mimiga
is it possible that not curly is also part mimiga??

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THAT'S NOT HOW RED OR DEMON FLOWERS WORK, YOU NIGNOG

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oh

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please explain to me when my weapons degraded to level 1
and why

the blocks not curly threw and the exp chips dropped by the heart enemies all went behind the door sprite
pls fix

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i actually don't care
also "devistated" should be "devastated"

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ow the edge

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ok then

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rude

I can't really say I liked the mod. It went all over the place, and by the end I was completely lost. Why was I forced to romance this Not Curly? Practically everything I did and every area I went to was for the sole purpose of increasing that imaginary affection meter. Also, you really need to work on the mod's text, especially the punctuation. There were at least two or three instances where you left entire blank lines in the dialogue, and there were so many cases of missing punctuation that I just stopped trying to screenshot them all.
 
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OK.
Your post is enormous, so I'm going to just comment on each part of it without it in a quote because I don't want to be here for 3 hours.
Everything I say is bold.
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I only just now remembered that N.E.T. Story existed, and decided to give it a go. Something something mod notes:

fashionably late by at least 60 days
That's fine.

having the mod default to fullscreen upon start-up is not okay
That's the default, I'm pretty sure I didn't provide a config.dat.

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>mod begins with chat algorithm
i don't have a good feeling about this
How come?

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oh god damnit
You give me a grin grin grinny grinny grin, sir.
In hindsight that's pretty fucking funny -- seeing people's reaction to that.


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there should be a comma between "Toroko" and "have"
I didn't touch it, I swear.

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there should be a space before "No"
I agree. Paths got rid of the space I put there, though, not me.

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why does my man sandaime never get blessed with altered dialogue in these "Cave Story, but Slightly Different" mods?
leik if u cri evritim

wow mahin way to be a dick
also when he says "*grumble grumble*" when you talk to him for the first time, the text doesn't wait for any input from the player before ending itself
Paths did that! I swear!

literally where are the save points
what if i drown in the reservoir
Go to Arthur's House.

oh arthur's house is unlocked
ok
Gud.

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why can't i go back through the crack
why is this even here in the first place
it just juts randomly out of the wall
I will explain later.

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there needs to be a space before "and", and there's a random space in between the lines for no reason
The game probably put an automatic line break, but I/Paths also put one, so yeah.
Not sure about the space after the comma.


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ok how was i supposed to know that i had to trigger toroko not with a silver pendant, but by interacting with the computer in Arthur's House several times?
I honestly never thought of that.

who am i
John Cena.

this remix of balrog's theme isn't too great, to be honest
It's not a remix.
I remade it from scratch.


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wait where did toroko go
I don't know. Probably heaven.

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how do i know the name of this mysterious brave little toaster when it didn't even introduce itself?
You don't need to know the name of Monster X for it to say "Defeated Monster X!"

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you're doing a kinda bad job of hinting at where to go
i just randomly interacted with this again after wandering around and it reconnected
Eh, I dunno, wouldn't you figure that the connection would be fixed after a while?

why did the music randomly cut out
It did?
Huh...


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my parents taught me not to meet with strangers i meet online
Haha.
Yeah but this is before people like that existed.


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no means no

wow ok fine i'll meet you in what is probably unedited sand zone
Not quite.

i didn't screenshot most of it, but a lot of the dialogue involving the computer requires better grammar and punctuation
I'm surprised you screenshot this much. =P

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needs a space after the ellipses etc. etc.
Paths fault.

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wow would you look at that
i was right
Not really.

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hello not curly
also "You" shouldn't be capitalized
Oh, OK...

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excuse you
i only have a polar star

luckily i'm a professional polar star user

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christ you're even more forward than curly was about weapon trading
I don't know why this cracks me up.

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why would you hide a savepoint like this
i only shot it out of boredom while passing by
I never really intended anyone else to use it.
It's just for testing purposes, but I left it in for those who could find it.


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oh god why did you put water in the walls
not curly why

platforming behind the walls is literal cancer
why the fuck
Well... If only you had the map. ;)

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this took entirely too long to achieve

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>damp
l-lewd
Eh? There's water in the walls, of course they're damp.

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ehehehe

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no because this is LITERALLY CAVE STORY
I don't know why I find this so funny.
So funny that I've tried to make myself angry with you just so I won't L.O.L.


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i know i just spent 15 minutes trying to find her panties within the walls of her house
but why am i suddenly dating not curly
Because you're good with firearms.

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10/10 guidance

ok
lemme just give this girl i bested in combat not even half an hour ago a sharp fang as a present to seduce her
surely this will work
STOP MAKING ME LAUGH.

STOP!!


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how is this woman so turned on by sharp beast fangs
STOPP!!!

ok did i just move into arthur's house
i'm confused
Eh?

all these missiles
and no launcher to launch them with
Ehh?

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what

so it's basically igor, but different
but he doesn't have a walking animation
w-why
Because if you just fought Igor it would seem pretty half arsed.

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lokie?
lokie??
you probably meant "loki"
but
loki???
I did. But Lokie is fine too.

what is with people and using only computers to talk to me
... Is this in real life or are you talking about in the game?

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why does this give me a bad feeling
Holy shit, you noticed that?
Well, that's probably because it's pretty significant to the second game.


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doesn't look very imprisoned to me
tbh
Cthulhu is magic.

why the random awkward pause between mentioning misery and telling me to talk to him when ready
It's just the remnants of something that I liked which Paths removed...

the entire plantation is a gigantic waste of space
there's nowhere to go except the little alcove where not curly is
Pretty-much.

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what the god damn shit fuck is that facepic
Misery X Cthulhu

i love how i only have 10 hp
and how almost anything kills me in one hit
i'm just joking it's horrible
It's hard
Deal with it.


it's also horrible how i have to sit through this dialogue and awkward pause whenever i want to try again

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digested????????
Yes, by Cthulhu. -_-

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oh uh
thanks
i guess skipping it didn't matter after all

>instantly teleport back to Arthur's House
how and why
Because it skips a few days.

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what test???

>3, 6, 7, and 10 are approved
but what does it mean
It means you're not getting the good ending. XD

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have i been playing a dating sim this whole time
... I thinks so, don't you?

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why did i appear here
i have so many questions
Idrk.

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but why tho
They're flowers for Sarah.

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why would she want something as dangerous as a red flower
in the middle of mimiga village
i don't
Idk.

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why put quotes around "you"

While talking to Paths about the mod I always referred to the main character as "you," so when Paths made his edits to the game he changed every instance of "you" to ""you"," which I didn't want him to do. But I honestly couldn't be arsed to go trough the numerous tsc files and fix that shit.

also she didn't even seem to want the demon flower
why did i give it to her then?????

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good question
i certainly have no fucking idea what's going on anymore
STOP.
MAKING.
ME.
LAUGH.


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these guys just popped out of thin air
They did??!

what is with you and map system-less wall mazes
they're nothing but cancer
stop
And optional.
(Except the panties one.)


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wow rude i could've died in there
That's the idea.

random omega is both random and dead
STOPMAKINGMELAUGHYOUPIECEOFSHITI'MGOINGTOALERTTHEPOLICEFFS... OK I'm done now. Until you make me laugh again.
but why all these -10 spikes
All spikes do -10.
are they really necessary when i have exactly 10hp
You do?

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excuse you
STOP MAKING EM LAGUOEGIPWJEGIPGHJRPHW

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u wot m8
demon flower or no, that shouldn't do much unless she's a mimiga
is it possible that not curly is also part mimiga??
She's part-a-lot-of-things, actually.

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THAT'S NOT HOW RED OR DEMON FLOWERS WORK, YOU NIGNOG

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oh

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please explain to me when my weapons degraded to level 1
and why

the blocks not curly threw and the exp chips dropped by the heart enemies all went behind the door sprite
pls fix
I can't without editing the .exe...

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i actually don't care
also "devistated" should be "devastated"
OK, OK, you deva... stated.

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ow the edge

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ok then

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rude
This only happens because you need a completed N.E.T. Story save to play N.E.T. Story II: The Surface.

I can't really say I liked the mod.
Get the 3rd ending, you'd probably like the mod more then.
It went all over the place, and by the end I was completely lost.
Why was I forced to romance this Not Curly? Practically everything I did and every area I went to was for the sole purpose of increasing that imaginary affection meter.
You don't seem to understand that that was what the plot is about...
Also, you really need to work on the mod's text, especially the punctuation.
Blame Paths.
There were at least two or three instances where you left entire blank lines in the dialogue, and there were so many cases of missing punctuation that I just stopped trying to screenshot them all.
Originally there just wasn't any punctuation at all. I liked it more like that, at least the text didn't randomly do

this and go off the screen every n
and then.

So if you want the full experience go back and do the following...

At first don't tell Sarah who you are, but then admit that you don't know.
Immediately say yes to meeting her in the Sand Zone.
DO NOT FUCKING GET THE MACHINE GUN when given the option. It bares a curse.
Talk to Sarah once before getting her panties so that she's too distracted to notice that you have them.
Examine everything in Sarah's house.
Get the Arms Barrier in the Outer Wall.
Talk to the young Little in the Outer Wall and tell her you think Sarah is pretty.
Talk to Sarah before fighting Cthulhu.

If all these conditions are met then she won't eat the red flower you gave her.

P.S. If you get stuck on Ballos try checking the bookshelves in Arthur's House, Yamashita Farm and the First Cave.
 
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I can't really say I liked the mod.
Get the 3rd ending, you'd probably like the mod more then.
I can say from experience that that's not really the case...

It's hard
Deal with it.
I really hope this isn't how you're going to respond to all criticism of the difficulty...
 
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I can say from experience that that's not really the case...

I really hope this isn't how you're going to respond to all criticism of the difficulty...
Well at least the mod doesn't abruptly end, then.

Also, I just did?
 
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Well at least the mod doesn't abruptly end, then.
True, but the gameplay isn't really any better...

Also, I just did?
So... Is that a yes?
You're just going to brush off any and all criticism of the difficulty of N.E.T. Story?
 
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So... Is that a yes?
You're just going to brush off any and all criticism of the difficulty of N.E.T. Story?
How is difficulty a flaw?
I mean, is WTFstory flawed? It's hard.
 
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How is difficulty a flaw?
Difficulty isn't a flaw when it's done well.
It's only a flaw when...
Actually, I cover this HEAVILY in the review so, I'm just gonna make you wait for that to come out. (AKA, make you wait until I'm done editing it.)
In the meantime, I HIGHLY recommend you go watch this video; It goes over difficulty in general, While (part of) my video goes over how it applies to N.E.T. Story.
 
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Difficulty isn't a flaw when it's done well.
It's only a flaw when...
Actually, I cover this HEAVILY in the review so, I'm just gonna make you wait for that to come out. (AKA, make you wait until I'm done editing it.)
In the meantime, I HIGHLY recommend you go watch this video; It goes over difficulty in general, While (part of) my video goes over how it applies to N.E.T. Story.
You're still making that? Good. Just tell me everything in the video. Trying is much harder anyway.
 
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Alright, I decided to come back and try to get the best ending. By the way, not all of those requirements make sense, but I digress.

let's try this again, shall we?
preferably with less suicide this time
i'll try to avoid bringing up things i brought up in the first playthrough unless it's something i wanted to elaborate on

regardless of it having a new story, it would have been better if you made more substantial changes to the maps
with new areas, it feels like you're actually playing something different

even though spirit tried to help you with the grammar and punctuation, you shouldn't blame all of the remaining errors on him
let's not forget that you're the one who failed to use ANY punctuation in the initial version, and you even said that you were too lazy to go back and check the changes spirit made or didn't make

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i wasn't paying attention, so i didn't see when Toroko disappears, but you should still try to find a way to fix her just disappearing forever
it's bad design to just ignore it

also, why does Balrog just come out of nowhere and fight me
he doesn't even give a valid reason; he just says "it's battle time"
we haven't even introduced ourselves

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y'know, you could have asked this as soon as i told not curly that i would meet her

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she only got to fire her gun once
git gud, casul

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i don't understand why it "bears a curse," but i'm fine with passing up on it

i looked through the OP again, and nowhere does it hint that this turns into a dating simulator with not curly
while i guess the premise is creative, it's still handled really awkwardly

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now that i have been educated, the damp panties are no longer lewd
however, why the fuck is there water in her home's walls when it's situated in the middle of what is essentially a desert?

when reading through not curly's chat logs, there were several instances where there were pauses i actually had to press z to progress
why
>inb4 spirit deleted the dialogue but left the code
that's why you go back and check your stuff, ya dingus

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this first message is acceptable, seeing as it could've been sent in IM form to fuck with the main character...

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all these missiles
and not a single launcher to launch them with

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i'll have you know that Lokie most certainly does not equate to Loki
they're two completely different names
don't tell me you're lazy enough to not change a single letter

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this second message, however, is really dumb
this is what i was refering to in my first batch of notes when i asked why everyone was talking to me through computers
if cthulhu is a magical being, he shouldn't have to resort to just IM communication

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how could not curly ever hear my opinion if she's chilling all the way up in cthulhu's "prison"

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how is this related in any way to me romancing the not curly

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how does this resemble misery + cthulhu in any way
cthulhu DOES have eyes, after all
and doesn't look like he was drawn in mspaint

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that block doesn't match this tileset in any way

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digested still makes absolutely no sense in this context
what, did cthulhu physically eat misery?
if so, she wouldn't be mind controlled
she'd be dead

by the way, there's a difference between "hard" and "unfair"
if a boss is hard, you will get punished for any mistakes you make, but you'll also get to recover from the boss's projectiles or summons
this fight with "digested" misery is unfair, however, because of the sole fact that you have only 10 health
her circle projectiles deal 6 damage each (which you can recover from), and the block she drops on you deals 10 damage (which instantly kills you)
when combined with the lava in the arena (10 damage) and the spikes littering the arena (also 10 damage), you can instantly die even at max health in numerous circumstances

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the curse of the machine gun

no but really
did i just move into Arthur's House or something
does literally no one in the village question that a total stranger holed up in his house after the mysterious disappearance of toroko

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>take online romance test
>get all 10 matches
>computer spits a Snake at me
uhh
ok???

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who the FUCK is chaba
note: i actually know who chaba is, but in this context he is nothing but a name
so is the entire labyrinth, but i digress

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all it took was watching her commit suicide by nameless protagonist in an alternate dimension

it still confuses me why not curly would just accept a demon flower for absolutely no reason

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now you don't see them...

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and now you do!

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these hidden hearts are normally supposed to make a noise upon taking damage, but in this instance nothing happens

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since when could omega speak

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still rude

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*teleports behind you*

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now i'm getting all hot and bothered
n-not curly, i...

this kind of reminds me of a story i read where a guy was going to throw himself in front of an oncoming train, only to be persuaded out of it by lady in the crowd

these random warps to Arthur's House will never not be jarring
it's kind of a lazy way to move from place to place

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you really need to make up your mind on how these messages are handled
either pick just normal text or just instant text, not a weird mix of the two
also the "T" in "The" shouldn't be capitalized aaaaAAAA

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whoa when did you get there

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are you fucking kidding me

/me angrily murders everything in first cave

is it bad that my favorite dialogue in this mod is the hermit gunsmith's unchanged speech about the polar star

is it me, or does the Spur charge faster?

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what the fuck when did you get there

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bruh

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hello completely unedited ma pignon storage room

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then where the fuck do i go now, oh mod creator of no guidance

>whimsical star almost kills the egg fish
jesus fuck don't do that again

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it took me entirely too long to find this

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not curly what the fuck
when did you tape yourself to my back

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you do know those hearts are pointless without a level 3 machine gun, right

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after reading your post again, i thought to reload my save and look around
how in the god damn shit fuck was the player supposed to guess that the booster 2.0 was here of all places
design could not be worse

you didn't even auto-equip the booster 2.0
0/10

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what do you mean "i don't know"
you're the one who sent me the teleporter destination
how did you manage to not only teleport onto my back, but tape yourself there before i could respond

i don't think there was any delay between ballos flying up into the ceiling and dropping back down as a ball
why

>making me fight Ballos
>without the Super Missile Launcher to gib his final phase
>even without a Life Pot
you monster
though it did succceed in making my heart pound
survived with 7 health

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ONLY NOW YOU THINK TO ASK THAT?

why is not curly suddenly a psychic type
is she evolving from not curly into mary sue

oh i was just talking out loud
that was silly

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this stuttered like hell for no reason
the pauses felt unequal in length

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what the hell
when and how did i get here
also spawning the player in water without so much as giving them a warning is a dick move, especially when they don't have the air tank

also you do realize that there was no save point between the ballos fight and this, right?
if i am to suddenly die by a press or something, i'll have to redo the entire fight

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also when did i get an extra 15 health

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good level design
i'm joking it's terrible

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EXCUSE you

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i spy something that doesn't belong
also nice fake block in the middle you ass

i like how there are bats flying in the lava for absolutely no reason
i can hear them dying as i machine gun across the pool

oh god when did this turn into the 2nd map of hell
complete with Running Hell

and still no save
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I HAVE A MIGHTY THIRST FOR SAVE POINTS

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i thought i killed you

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what the h*ck
there were two of them in the same spot

epic Loki spam, friendo

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i don't like the fact that i'm about to take a Loki bullet to the tailpipe

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who the fuck
also nice use of almost no shading at all

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the fact that there's a space before the ellipses and not after it warrants mentioning
how do you mess up that bad
>inb4 spirit
hush

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oh i see
it's the epic self insert meme

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would you look at that
it's the similarly epic fourth-wall-breaking meme

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neither do i for once again i'm lost as fuck

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SHOTS FIRED

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how convenient
and by convenient i mean lazy
what was the point then

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but i'm obligated to say yes

what was that noise

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>i actually got 3 more health for doing that

>try to go to the save point after that entire ordeal
>not curly starts to freak out
what the hell, dude

>she still has her red flower
>after all that time
what the HELL, dude
why did you convince me to stick my flash drive into crazy

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how will this accomplish anything

i said no to canceling my bringing up of one of my items
and now i can move around
...what

i think i broke it

oh nevermind, all i had to do was leave and come back
...that's still really bad design, though

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>accidentally say yes to showing her the panties while saying no to all the options again so i could save
>her face
my sides

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are you serious
did that actually work
did i really just accidentally stop someone from committing suicide by nameless protagonist for the 2nd time in one day

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no shit sherlock
what else do you think they'd do

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i don't think this will work if not curly threatens to kill herself with red flowers every 5 seconds

ok
that weird "idea" thing not curly did was kind of weird since it was so slow, but it was a neat idea

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but i want to save again

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>spur reverted to polar star
1. how does that work
2. fuck you

>wind fortress music
ok you're at least 1/2 forgiven

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this design is seriously lacking in "level"

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it's rarely ever a good idea to have huge, flat, boring slopes like this one

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weird corner is weird
pls fix

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there are two random pits where i'm standing and where my mouse is
they prevent you from cleanly running to the left
pls fix

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>go to a random corner of the room below the door
>press down
>randomly express thought
why

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oh
we ACTUALLY wind fortress now

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whatever you tried to type should be "familiar"
also at least this time i have more than 10 health

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>kill not curly+ as soon as she's about to throw a block
>she leaves the block after dying
uhm...
what

this is dumb
they leave a block upon dying, which still acts as an active hitbox that blocks bullets
and there're so many
why

you really need to set some flags or something so the player doesn't have to suffer through all this dialogue each time they die

the dead not curlys can also absorb shots until they disappear
and each time they do, they replay the disappearing noise

what the actual fuck
i've killed at least ten of these things

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there we go

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holy mother of lag, man
rarely does cave story experience a drop in frames
and it just dropped big time

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a fucking horrible boss fight

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*awkwardly twiddles thumbs*

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epic fourth wall breakage, my man

oh
that was it

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>implying
also
original character donut steal

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i know you tried, but combining mspaint art with in-game tilesets and sprites just looks bad

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where did she even go

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>those very minor edits
>that fucking gun he's holding
i'm sorry but my sides

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that literally never happened

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>gave birth to love
wait
was not curly+ throwing freshly born baby hearts at me
fucking BRUTAL

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you really need to learn how to spell Loki
you also need to look up what digested means, because that's not digested

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>black hair
>blue hair
>daughter has blonde hair
what
also if that's supposed to be curly, that's not how androids work

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u-uh
yes?

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>go to save
>get healed instead
wot
also bland interior design is bland

>both the save disk and the health station refill my health
panic

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well, this is the first time i've ever seen a door like that
however, it doesn't match up perfectly with the tiles above and below it

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don't you mean Arthur's computer

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where did this bucket that totally isn't from minecraft come from

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oh it's actually over this time
>curly brace yourself for
2/10 made me cringe

Now that I actually got to play through the entire mod, it was a bit better. After learning that the mod was basically a shoddy dating simulator, I didn't get quite as lost. Still doesn't mean that it went all over the place on a regular basis. One problem you need to learn to handle is balancing. I went from 10 health to 40 health in a single life capsule. You could've easily split that up into smaller life capsules and spread them out more in the earlier areas. The final boss also speaks for itself.

Oh, and I'm surprised to see that you found my previous batch of notes so funny. I wasn't really expecting a reaction like that.
 
Jan 31, 2016 at 2:46 AM
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I guess i'll say my thoughts about it...
I actually played N.E.T. Story like a month and a half ago.

(I'm going to refer to the pc as "Yu" I mean Sarah calls him "You" which is basically the same thing)

Looking over the fact that this mods map were just slightly edited versions of the originals.

My biggest quarrel with this mod, was the story... specifically the lack of explaination of... really ANYTHING.
You are... are... are...? That was never really explained, the most I got out of that was Sarah calling Yu "you" which still doesn't explain a whole lot.
Who's this Sarah? Why does she want to date Yu? Why does the pc like her so much, that he goes around the island finding "gifts" for her?
WTF?!? CTHULU?!? Wait, what and why? He captured Sarah so that he could fight Yu? And he also ate Misery for... REASONS???
I wasn't really mad about the whole red flower part cause hey, maybe Yu didn't know about what they do, and just wanted to give Sarah a nice present.
Although she did tell Yu that they were "dangerous" when he gave them to her, and still accepted them anyways.
There was also no clear explanation as to why Sarah decided ate the red flower after Yu came to her house.

My second biggest quarrel was the lack of guidance.
IT WAS REALLY UNCLEAR WHERE I WAS SUPPOSED TO GO AND WHAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO DO NEXT.
When in doubt, go to Arth- Yu's house and check the computer I suppose...

I know that there's these "other endings I can get" but the way you get them is ludicrous.
You have to check literally every corner to find what you need.
You also need to choose certain options, and there's never any indication as to which one you should pick.
I didn't bother to try and get the 3rd ending even after you posted what you needed to do.

Other than that I kinda enjoyed the mod... kinda...

I know that i'm just restating a lot of the stuff that Seasons said, buts that's because I agree with him.
zxin, if multiple people(2 people, I know, that's a whole lot) are complaining about certain aspects of your mod, then you should really take it into consideration and see how you can improve said aspects.

You want to know why I didn't even bother to try and get the 3rd ending?
1. Seasons already went through that pain for me :p
2. The preceding things that you needed to do to GET to the 3rd ending are things are just flat-out dumb, the average player would never be able to find out how to get the 3rd ending.
They wouldn't even KNOW that there was multiple endings if you didn't put in that 1/3 at the end.

I know that you won't be working on the remake for a while(cause of the whole laptop thing). But you should really look at what we said and try to improve in those areas.
I mean, at least we didn't just flat-out say "This mod is bad"(I mean we kinda did... but at least we stated are reasons for our opinion).

We're not hating on you zxin(well... I don't know about Seasons, but im not), we just want to help you improve your modding.

Also, you should totally have the pc's name be "Yu" so that when Sarah calls the pc "You" she's technically not wrong.

Conveniently enough, while I was writing this, Seasons wrote another review on him getting the 3rd ending.
Dude, I love your mod reviews, every time I see a new mod released I eagerly wait to see your review on it.

Also, sweet review on Seasons review zxin.
 
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OK I'm doing what I did before with the whole 'Replying in bold thing.'
Alright, I decided to come back and try to get the best ending. By the way, not all of those requirements make sense, but I digress.
Yeah, some do make sense, but only if you're me.

let's try this again, shall we?
preferably with less suicide this time
i'll try to avoid bringing up things i brought up in the first playthrough unless it's something i wanted to elaborate on

regardless of it having a new story, it would have been better if you made more substantial changes to the maps
with new areas, it feels like you're actually playing something different
Well, N.E.T. Story v2.0 (The "big update" I've been talking about) is going to have that.
And N.E.T. Story v1.X already has a couple new maps, mostly toward the end.


even though spirit tried to help you with the grammar and punctuation, you shouldn't blame all of the remaining errors on him
let's not forget that you're the one who failed to use ANY punctuation in the initial version, and you even said that you were too lazy to go back and check the changes spirit made or didn't make
Woah, woah, woah! I said I was too lazy to find every instance of "you" Paths changed to ""You"' and fix it. As well as me not spotting some other minor errors before stopping working on the mod.

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i wasn't paying attention, so i didn't see when Toroko disappears, but you should still try to find a way to fix her just disappearing forever
This fight probably isn't even going to be in the next version, gg.
it's bad design to just ignore it
There was a reason for it, but I forget... Never-mind, I remember, I wanted to make her get knocked over by the door breaking down, but I had no idea what the animation numbers we're so I resorted to just making her disappear. Pretty lazy on my behalf, but It's easily fixed.

also, why does Balrog just come out of nowhere and fight me
he doesn't even give a valid reason; he just says "it's battle time"
we haven't even introduced ourselves
He likes fighting people.

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y'know, you could have asked this as soon as i told not curly that i would meet her
I forget why I did that.

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she only got to fire her gun once
git gud, casul
It's pretty easy to do that.

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i don't understand why it "bears a curse," but i'm fine with passing up on it
In the cannon it doesn't -- that was just my way of saying that if you take it your fucked.

i looked through the OP again, and nowhere does it hint that this turns into a dating simulator with not curly
while i guess the premise is creative, it's still handled really awkwardly
Tis'.

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now that i have been educated, the damp panties are no longer lewd
however, why the fuck is there water in her home's walls when it's situated in the middle of what is essentially a desert?
I never thought of that.

when reading through not curly's chat logs, there were several instances where there were pauses i actually had to press z to progress
why
>inb4 spirit deleted the dialogue but left the code
No, there are supposed to me <NODs in the chat logs...
that's why you go back and check your stuff, ya dingus
I did, just not all of it.

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this first message is acceptable, seeing as it could've been sent in IM form to fuck with the main character...
I feel like you we're going somewhere with that? ...

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all these missiles
and not a single launcher to launch them with
There's supposed to be something in there, but I gave up on trying to get it to work.

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i'll have you know that Lokie most certainly does not equate to Loki
they're two completely different names
don't tell me you're lazy enough to not change a single letter
I've discontinued support for N.E.T. Story ages ago in favor of working on N.E.T. Story v2.0 and N.E.T. Story II: The Surface.

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this second message, however, is really dumb
this is what i was refering to in my first batch of notes when i asked why everyone was talking to me through computers
if cthulhu is a magical being, he shouldn't have to resort to just IM communication
Now I see where you we're going.
I dunno, Cthulhu is fucking with 'you'.


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how could not curly ever hear my opinion if she's chilling all the way up in cthulhu's "prison"
They're friends, of course they'd tell each-other about that sorta thing.

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how is this related in any way to me romancing the not curly
I really don't know.

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how does this resemble misery + cthulhu in any way
Green.
cthulhu DOES have eyes, after all
Hnng, I suppose.
and doesn't look like he was drawn in mspaint
Wrong -- Cave Editor's Sprite Editor was what I used to draw all my sprites (except Lokie) up until I converted my files to .bmps.

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that block doesn't match this tileset in any way
It's got a nice contrast.

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digested still makes absolutely no sense in this context
what, did cthulhu physically eat misery?
if so, she wouldn't be mind controlled
she'd be dead
There's more than one Cthulhu.

by the way, there's a difference between "hard" and "unfair"
Yes.
if a boss is hard, you will get punished for any mistakes you make, but you'll also get to recover from the boss's projectiles or summons
this fight with "digested" misery is unfair, however, because of the sole fact that you have only 10 health
her circle projectiles deal 6 damage each (which you can recover from), and the block she drops on you deals 10 damage (which instantly kills you)
when combined with the lava in the arena (10 damage) and the spikes littering the arena (also 10 damage), you can instantly die even at max health in numerous circumstances
The fight really isn't that hard... It's just Misery.

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the curse of the machine gun
There isn't actually a curse on it.
It was a joke regarding that if you get the Machine Gun in any version of Cave Story then you're going to regret it and later discover the Spur.


no but really
did i just move into Arthur's House or something
does literally no one in the village question that a total stranger holed up in his house after the mysterious disappearance of toroko
Haha, no idea.

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>take online romance test
>get all 10 matches
>computer spits a Snake at me
uhh
ok???
I wanted the player to get all the "Trade Polar Star for X" weapons in the game.\
Polar Star/Spur, Machine Gun, Snake.


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who the FUCK is chaba
note: i actually know who chaba is, but in this context he is nothing but a name
so is the entire labyrinth, but i digress
I completely overlooked that , my apologies.

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all it took was watching her commit suicide by nameless protagonist in an alternate dimension
They're not nameless.

it still confuses me why not curly would just accept a demon flower for absolutely no reason
Ditto.

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now you don't see them...

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and now you do!
Odd, I never ran into that.

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these hidden hearts are normally supposed to make a noise upon taking damage, but in this instance nothing happens
Not my doing.
Not Path's doing.
Are you sure you're not on something?


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since when could omega speak
It's a caption, not speech.

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still rude
Why you gotta be soo rood?

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*teleports behind you*
Vzhhzhzzhzh... What? That's the noise teleporting makes...

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now i'm getting all hot and bothered
n-not curly, i...
Progression.
You fucking did it.


this kind of reminds me of a story i read where a guy was going to throw himself in front of an oncoming train, only to be persuaded out of it by lady in the crowd
Dying to the Red Flower seems a bit worse.
You like your blood boiling? Gud.


these random warps to Arthur's House will never not be jarring
it's kind of a lazy way to move from place to place
Skipping time.
It does things to you.


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you really need to make up your mind on how these messages are handled
either pick just normal text or just instant text,
I thought it was all instant??
not a weird mix of the two
also the "T" in "The" shouldn't be capitalized aaaaAAAA
Ye I get it... aaaaAAAA.
Also you forgot a full stop, Hitler.


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whoa when did you get there
I shouldn't have moved it.
It would have made the wall mazes much easier.


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are you fucking kidding me

/me angrily murders everything in first cave

is it bad that my favorite dialogue in this mod is the hermit gunsmith's unchanged speech about the polar star

is it me, or does the Spur charge faster?
Not just you.
It does charge faster.


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what the fuck when did you get there
When I put it there, bitch.

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bruh
bruh?

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hello completely unedited ma pignon storage room
I forgot you could even go into there.

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then where the fuck do i go now, oh mod creator of no guidance
Use the thing that the plot revolves around...

>whimsical star almost kills the egg fish
jesus fuck don't do that again

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it took me entirely too long to find this
What have you done so far?
Get gun
Use computer
Fight robot
Use computer
Fight cyborg
Use computer
Get panties
Go on a date
Use computer
Use computer
Fight witch
Use computer
Find treasure

See a pattern?
Yes, the entire mod revolves around a computer, if in doubt... USE COMPUTER.


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not curly what the fuck
when did you tape yourself to my back
You failed to notice that 'you' talk now?

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you do know those hearts are pointless without a level 3 machine gun, right
Booster v2.0.

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after reading your post again, i thought to reload my save and look around
how in the god damn shit fuck was the player supposed to guess that the booster 2.0 was here of all places
design could not be worse
It's somewhat hidden.
But I told you about it, why didn't you find it sooner?


you didn't even auto-equip the booster 2.0
Normal Cave Story doesn't auto equip the booster. GG.
0/10

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what do you mean "i don't know"
you're the one who sent me the teleporter destination
how did you manage to not only teleport onto my back, but tape yourself there before i could respond
You both teleported to the same place.

i don't think there was any delay between ballos flying up into the ceiling and dropping back down as a ball
why
Really?

>making me fight Ballos
>without the Super Missile Launcher to gib his final phase
>even without a Life Pot
you monster
though it did succceed in making my heart pound
survived with 7 health
I did it just fine.
I've beaten Ballos' first form with 1000000000 health.


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ONLY NOW YOU THINK TO ASK THAT?
GG.

why is not curly suddenly a psychic type
Eh? You mean the physical type?
is she evolving from not curly into mary sue

oh i was just talking out loud
that was silly

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this stuttered like hell for no reason
the pauses felt unequal in length
I didn't do that?

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what the hell
when and how did i get here
also spawning the player in water without so much as giving them a warning is a dick move, especially when they don't have the air tank
That's the idea.

also you do realize that there was no save point between the ballos fight and this, right?
if i am to suddenly die by a press or something, i'll have to redo the entire fight
Yeah but this is also pretty easy.

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also when did i get an extra 15 health
When you killed Ballos.

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good level design
i'm joking it's terrible
=P

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EXCUSE you
No, EXCUSE you.

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i spy something that doesn't belong
also nice fake block in the middle you ass
;)

i like how there are bats flying in the lava for absolutely no reason
i can hear them dying as i machine gun across the pool
Yep.

oh god when did this turn into the 2nd map of hell
complete with Running Hell
When you wen't trough that block.

and still no save
GG.
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I HAVE A MIGHTY THIRST FOR SAVE POINTS
Too bad there's a drought.

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i thought i killed you
Yeah but I un-killed you.

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what the h*ck
there were two of them in the same spot

epic Loki spam, friendo

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i don't like the fact that i'm about to take a Loki bullet to the tailpipe

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who the fuck
also nice use of almost no shading at all
Shh, this is when I couldn't sprite.

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the fact that there's a space before the ellipses and not after it warrants mentioning
how do you mess up that bad
inb4 spirit
hush
Well fuck you too. ._.

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oh i see
it's the epic self insert meme
Not really.
More just... "I was running out of ideas so I decided to make the impossible possible."


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would you look at that
it's the similarly epic fourth-wall-breaking meme

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neither do i for once again i'm lost as fuck
This is pretty much me directly talking to the player.

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SHOTS FIRED
GG.
Sarah hates her own creator... stupid bitch...


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how convenient
and by convenient i mean lazy
what was the point then
I literally had an idea on how to continue the mod while making this part...

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Intentionally, this time.
but i'm obligated to say yes
Well, if you say no then you can't really do anything else.

what was that noise
=4

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>i actually got 3 more health for doing that
*cough*

>try to go to the save point after that entire ordeal
>not curly starts to freak out
She has issues.
what the hell, dude

>she still has her red flower
>after all that time
Ye.
what the HELL, dude
why did you convince me to stick my flash drive into crazy
Manipulation.

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how will this accomplish anything

i said no to canceling my bringing up of one of my items
and now i can move around
...what

i think i broke it

oh nevermind, all i had to do was leave and come back
...that's still really bad design, though
And not supposed to happen...
How'd you do that?


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>accidentally say yes to showing her the panties while saying no to all the options again so i could save
>her face
my sides
>my face
HAHAHAAH!


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are you serious
did that actually work
did i really just accidentally stop someone from committing suicide by nameless protagonist for the 2nd time in one day
They're not nameless.
Also those panties do 3 things... Unlike in the original where they do FUCKING NOTHING.


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no shit sherlock
what else do you think they'd do
Give you magic powers that let you shoot love?

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i don't think this will work if not curly threatens to kill herself with red flowers every 5 seconds
She's just going trough a rough time.
Where she gets given flowers.


ok
that weird "idea" thing not curly did was kind of weird since it was so slow, but it was a neat idea
Thanks?

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but i want to save again
Should have done that before you talked to her.
Suckedd inn.


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>spur reverted to polar star
1. how does that work
2. fuck you
How do your weapons revert in the Last Cave? Or while Running Hell?
Wind.
Fucking wind.
And this is Wind Fortress.
So it's much worse. Much, much worse.


>wind fortress music
ok you're at least 1/2 forgiven
Yay! =D

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this design is seriously lacking in "level"
Eh?

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it's rarely ever a good idea to have huge, flat, boring slopes like this one
Yeah...

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weird corner is weird
pls fix
1. No, because I'm working on entirely re-working the game.
2. It's not.


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there are two random pits where i'm standing and where my mouse is
they prevent you from cleanly running to the left
pls fix
1. No, because I'm working on entirely re-working the game.
2. Intentional.


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>go to a random corner of the room below the door
>press down
>randomly express thought
why
You actually found that? Nice one.

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oh
we ACTUALLY wind fortress now
Yes, bitch.

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whatever you tried to type should be "familiar"
also at least this time i have more than 10 health
Yeah.
Shame there's like 8 of them.


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>kill not curly+ as soon as she's about to throw a block
>she leaves the block after dying
uhm...
what
I tried to fix that, I think.
Did it not work?


this is dumb
they leave a block upon dying, which still acts as an active hitbox that blocks bullets
and there're so many
why
Again, thought I fixed it.

you really need to set some flags or something so the player doesn't have to suffer through all this dialogue each time they die
I couldn't get the skipflags to work.
They hate me, I hate them.


the dead not curlys can also absorb shots until they disappear
and each time they do, they replay the disappearing noise
That's pretty hard to fix.

what the actual fuck
i've killed at least ten of these things
Oh, maybe there's twelve?

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there we go
Tell me -- how many times did you die before you FUCKING CHEATED?

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holy mother of lag, man
rarely does cave story experience a drop in frames
and it just dropped big time
It's because you're fighting two bosses that shoot projectiles while shooting 3 projectiles which turn into a bunch of other entities. Duh, the game lags.

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a fucking horrible boss fight
Just buggy.

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*awkwardly twiddles thumbs*
Why?

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epic fourth wall breakage, my man
*cough*

oh
that was it
Not quite.

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>implying
also
original character donut steal
You didn't make a comment on her last name here?

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i know you tried, but combining mspaint art with in-game tilesets and sprites just looks bad
Woah! Fuck you, I didn't make that in MS-Paint. I drew it in Adobe Flash and then made it much, much smaller.

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where did she even go
She wen't to the credits.
It's staring you in the face.


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>those very minor edits
>that fucking gun he's holding
i'm sorry but my sides
Should have put a scarf around his neck.
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that literally never happened
--shit why is that still in there--

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>gave birth to love
wait
was not curly+ throwing freshly born baby hearts at me
fucking BRUTAL
Gave birth to as in made.
And the things are called love, not hearts.
She's literally killing you with her own love, that's what it means.


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you really need to learn how to spell Loki
I have now.
But I'm still calling him Lokie because it's more original I suppose.

you also need to look up what digested means, because that's not digested
Digest.png
She's been eaten and then decomposed by Cthulhu.
How is that anything other than digested?

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>black hair
>blue hair
>daughter has blonde hair
what
also if that's supposed to be curly, that's not how androids work
Well, Sarah is a human.
And also 'you' made her.


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u-uh
yes?
It should probably say "View epilogue?"

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>go to save
>get healed instead
wot
Fuck.
also bland interior design is bland
Yes.

>both the save disk and the health station refill my health
panic
Fuck fuck fuck.

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well, this is the first time i've ever seen a door like that
Perspective!
Also am I really the first person to do that??

however, it doesn't match up perfectly with the tiles above and below it
Really? Looks fine to me. I guess it should be a little taller.

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don't you mean Arthur's computer
Plot hollee.

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where did this bucket that totally isn't from minecraft come from
Shh, I'm bad at sprites.
Also didn't Sarah give it to you?
Also the epilogue is pretty broken, I tried to fix it, but it was hopeless.


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oh it's actually over this time
>curly brace yourself for
2/10 made me cringe
That's to be expected.

Now that I actually got to play through the entire mod, it was a bit better.
Well, you got past the part where I was still learning TSC.
After learning that the mod was basically a shoddy dating simulator, I didn't get quite as lost.
I don't really see why not knowing that made you lost.
Still doesn't mean that it went all over the place on a regular basis. One problem you need to learn to handle is balancing. I went from 10 health to 40 health in a single life capsule. You could've easily split that up into smaller life capsules and spread them out more in the earlier areas.
Yes, that's a problem.
The final boss also speaks for itself.
Final bosses, there being 12 of the fucking things.

Oh, and I'm surprised to see that you found my previous batch of notes so funny. I wasn't really expecting a reaction like that.
I found these ones pretty funny too.

All in all, thanks for taking the time and effort to review my rather broken, miss-guided, broken, confusing first mod.
I hope you can take the time to also review v2.0 when (and if) it comes out, because it took me a total of TWO FUCKING HOURS to reply to your ENORMOUS post.

Thanks for your time,
~zxin
 
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I'm not putting this in my previous post because it's already too long.
I guess i'll say my thoughts about it...
I actually played N.E.T. Story like a month and a half ago.
OK.

(I'm going to refer to the pc as "Yu" I mean Sarah calls him "You" which is basically the same thing)
She's supposed to just say you but Paths changed it... ._.

Looking over the fact that this mods map were just slightly edited versions of the originals.
Yes, looking over that?

My biggest quarrel with this mod, was the story... specifically the lack of explaination of... really ANYTHING.
Bad conveyance?
You are... are... are...?
A robot.
That was never really explained, the most I got out of that was Sarah calling Yu "you" which still doesn't explain a whole lot.
Who's this Sarah?
A human girl.
Why does she want to date Yu?
Because you turn her on fought her and won.
Why does the pc like her so much, that he goes around the island finding "gifts" for her?
... dis is obvious...
WTF?!? CTHULU?!? Wait, what and why?
Because he's a dick.
He captured Sarah so that he could fight Yu?
Yes, kinda.
And he also ate Misery for... REASONS???
This cracks me up.
I wasn't really mad about the whole red flower part cause hey, maybe Yu didn't know about what they do, and just wanted to give Sarah a nice present.
Pretty-much. He doesn't know "Oh, all Red Flowers are evil asf."
Although she did tell Yu that they were "dangerous" when he gave them to her, and still accepted them anyways.
Because she's being nice. GG.
There was also no clear explanation as to why Sarah decided ate the red flower after Yu came to her house.
*cough*

My second biggest quarrel was the lack of guidance.
IT WAS REALLY UNCLEAR WHERE I WAS SUPPOSED TO GO AND WHAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO DO NEXT.
If in doubt...
Use computer.

When in doubt, go to Arth- Yu's house and check the computer I suppose...
... I... ... ... I swear I didn't read this before typing the preceding...

I know that there's these "other endings I can get" but the way you get them is ludicrous.
True.
You have to check literally every corner to find what you need.
Yes.
You also need to choose certain options, and there's never any indication as to which one you should pick.
Yes.
I didn't bother to try and get the 3rd ending even after you posted what you needed to do.
That's a shame.

Other than that I kinda enjoyed the mod... kinda...
Really?
It it better than Kitten Ghost Whatever 1/2/3?

I know that i'm just restating a lot of the stuff that Seasons said, buts that's because I agree with him.
So do I... Sometimes.
zxin, if multiple people(2 people, I know, that's a whole lot) are complaining about certain aspects of your mod, then you should really take it into consideration and see how you can improve said aspects.
...

...

...

...

You clearly haven't been paying any attention at all.
Have I mentioned that "I'M NOT WORKING ON N.E.T. Story ANYMORE BECAUSE I AM INSTEAD WORKING ON A RE-WORK OF THE MOD WHICH SHOULD (in theory) FIX ALL THE MAJOR PROBLEMS IT HAS."
Jesus fuckinged Christ and now nobody listens to anything anymore.


You want to know why I didn't even bother to try and get the 3rd ending?
Yes.
1. Seasons already went through that pain for me :p
OK?
2. The preceding things that you needed to do to GET to the 3rd ending are things are just flat-out dumb, the average player would never be able to find out how to get the 3rd ending.
Originally that was the point. Although I get that it was a mistake because the rest of the mod is much better than the preceding parts.
They wouldn't even KNOW that there was multiple endings if you didn't put in that 1/3 at the end.
Well, I'm glad I did that.

I know that you won't be working on the remake for a while(cause of the whole laptop thing). But you should really look at what we said and try to improve in those areas.
... I'm not going to be fixing this version of the mod because it has many un-fixable -- or very hard to fix -- issues, and I'd rather put my time into:
Making Muri v2.0
Making N.E.T. Story v2.0
Making N.E.T. Story II: The Surface

I mean, at least we didn't just flat-out say "This mod is bad"(I mean we kinda did... but at least we stated are reasons for our opinion).
Yes, that's good.
Mindless hate is fucking stupid.


We're not hating on you zxin(well... I don't know about Seasons, but im not), we just want to help you improve your modding.
Well you're not helping, you're asking me to revive a dead horse while I'm in the process of breeding another (better) horse.

Also, you should totally have the pc's name be "Yu" so that when Sarah calls the pc "You" she's technically not wrong.
I've already given the player a name, you'd know it if you got the best ending.

Conveniently enough, while I was writing this, Seasons wrote another review on him getting the 3rd ending.
Dude, I love your mod reviews, every time I see a new mod released I eagerly wait to see your review on it.
They do other reviews?
Shiieeet.


Also, sweet review on Seasons review zxin.
Thanks? = .=
 
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Hey man, I might as well point out stuff like this so you don't accidentally make the same mistakes in the remake/better version.

By the way, I didn't really have much difficulty with the mod aside from the final boss. I was just pointing out those parts because you have to take into account the various people who aren't quite as good at Cave Story. For example, while I didn't really need the safety buffer of more health for Digested Misery, you can probably understand why dying in one hit would frustrate some people.

Oh, and for the love of God, lock the screen in some fashion if you're going to use one or more Rabid Toroko-esque bosses. It's hard enough to dodge two blocks at once, but it's a nightmare to do so when you can't see what attacks are being telegraphed.
 
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By the way, I didn't really have much difficulty with the mod aside from the final boss. I was just pointing out those parts because you have to take into account the various people who aren't quite as good at Cave Story. For example, while I didn't really need the safety buffer of more health for Digested Misery, you can probably understand why dying in one hit would frustrate some people.
Yes this is true, although I intended the mod to be played by people who have already finished Cave Story. That's why there are quite a few subtle references to things from the late-game.

Oh, and for the love of God, lock the screen in some fashion if you're going to use one or more Rabid Toroko-esque bosses. It's hard enough to dodge two blocks at once, but it's a nightmare to do so when you can't see what attacks are being telegraphed.
Is it really?
 
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Just wondering, but what did you use to make it? (BL, CE, or SW?)
 
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Just wondering, but what did you use to make it? (BL, CE, or SW?)
I would assume booster's lab, since that's pretty much the best tool out there
 
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I would assume booster's lab, since that's pretty much the best tool out there
Actually no, I used CE.
I prefer BL, but it lacks many aspects of CE that I like. It only just got the CE tsc info thing (it shows information about sounds, facepics, etc.) which is very useful when you're using 30 facepics...
 
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Actually no, I used CE.
I prefer BL, but it lacks many aspects of CE that I like. It only just got the CE tsc info thing (it shows information about sounds, facepics, etc.) which is very useful when you're using 30 facepics...
the latest edition of BL has the TSC info box now
 
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