I would love to hear what you come up with, I freaking love Suto's personality. Any inspirations for that particular personality? You already told me why he exists in the first place, but you could have made him less... Unhinged. Not towards the end of course, 3-5 losses can do that to anyone, but he was nuts from the beginning, so clearly it's his general personality.ZarroTsu said:
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Actually, I've gotten out of that area using only the Booster 0.8 on multiple occassions. I always have the Nemesis before going for Genesis, who I always go for first. It's difficult, not impossible. I would prefer it if you left that save disk there since I usually die a few times on my way out. Perhaps you should have the Save Disk warn you before using it that you may want to wait until you have something better than the Booster 0.8 unless you feel confidant.ZarroTsu said:
It's also the Ys item theme.Mistress Nemesis said:
Whatever you do, just don't delete it. It is fully possible to get out of there with effort. I'll post a screenshot of my inventory when I get to that point. With whatever your next update is, if it happens to come during my run, would I be able to safely use my old profile, do you think?ZarroTsu said:
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Ys is an excellent series of RPGs. ^.^Mistress Nemesis said:
Told ya. The reason it's hard is because while taking advantage of the wind is the only way to get out, Cave Story uses realistic wind physics, so the small streams of wind have to be used in a very precice way. I say realistic wind physics as opposed to automated wind physics that require no input from the player to get to a specific and predetermined destination.BooMario said:
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, even though I know it's a completely alternate universe/scenario.Doc still has them up until you kill Tristitia. I suppose I could convey it better by having him say it outright (You may have saved their lives... But your magic is still mine to control!) just before the palace starts shaking.
This is more a limit of the game itself than anything, unfortunately. I'd have happily let Curly accompany you for certain parts of the game if the AI were half-way intelligent, but I guarantee she'd be stuck on terrain too often to be useful, or she'd simply fall to her death in places like Outer Wall. I suppose alternatively she could be strapped to Quote's back in said instances, but the only weapon available to her is her version of the Nemesis. I suppose with some tweaking I could make it viable, but...
Been stated a few times, but the Spur does indeed charge slightly slower than the original game. To compensate, one of the capsules gives an item ("Ursa Minor") to halve the charge time, making it charge slightly faster than the original game.
By the way, noticed they're "automatically unequipped" in the ending. Intentional?Mistress Nemesis said:
Oh yeah, that's a good idea... I didn't even think of that, just looked like it could be a case of Bystander Syndrome. The magic isn't too explained or comprehendable in this universe, sometimes when magic is involved, you can't quite figure out its source. The universe has witch powers, the Red Crystal, the Demon Crown and probably more things around. Though if you think about it apparently all those come from a single source of magic, apparently, at least in your mod canon. Tho I'm still not sure.ZarroTsu said:
I mean, I guess that's what that ball is called, but what.ZarroTsu said:
Curly's inactivity seemed to have been how Shmitz intended it, as well as Balrog's inactivity. Zarro refined and finished the game, he didn't reinvent the wheel with this.Molten said:By the way, noticed they're "automatically unequipped" in the ending. Intentional?
Choice and customization is always nice, I'm not against it. I was just wondering at first if the item had more profound effects (thought I also might've missed some, perhaps due to my path in the game and/or a bug) that led to it being requested to be toggleable. Since it has no gameplay effect, there's no requirement to be able to remove it, it's just a nice thing to have, completely unlike the Whimsical Star, which has actual gameplay implications, as well as effecting emergent gameplay (could rarely aggravate or kill an enemy before you wanted that to happen, etc, or otherwise interfere).
Going on a tangent, even those implications of the Star are mostly meta-game and goofing-around based, of course, and it's a great idea to have it unequippable but not essential (it generally makes the game easier rather than harder, and if you didn't want that then I guess you could not get this powerup). I certainly don't unequip and reequip it when I pass by an area with aggro-able enemies (that sounds tedious, it's not like you can toggle it with a keypress)... I'd probably prefer not having it at all to doing that, but then it's not like regular enemies are regularly (heh) any threat unless you've barebones equipment, and aren't only like 3 of them are aggro-able anyway?
Oh yeah, that's a good idea... I didn't even think of that, just looked like it could be a case of Bystander Syndrome. The magic isn't too explained or comprehendable in this universe, sometimes when magic is involved, you can't quite figure out its source. The universe has witch powers, the Red Crystal, the Demon Crown and probably more things around. Though if you think about it apparently all those come from a single source of magic, apparently, at least in your mod canon. Tho I'm still not sure.
I don't know what the heck is Tristitia, of course.
Oh no, you didn't get me. While you could have had her accompany you on a level or two and in a boss fight or two, also as a nod to the original game, that's not the issue, and I think neither are the technical limitations. Fixing the AI definitely sounds hard, however, the problem isn't that she doesn't play alongside you, you don't need to have that to have her involved, it's just that she's not active, as you've lampshaded in dialog. Specifically, she barely moves on-screen at all, and is barely mentioned to have done anything of note. She mostly just stands in place. Sometimes she changes the area in which she is standing in place.
What could be done, which is technically feasible as far as I know:
Have her do noteworthy things on-screen and off-screen (then mention them or show their effects). She could have different missions in parallel with yours, or something. To this effect, you could also switch control to her and back a few times, though not necessarily. Could also cut to her in cutscens and back a few times to show her progress, or not.
Have her do stuff in cutscenes, have her help you, or need you to help her. Don't Booster or Sue technically help you more than her? That feels weird.
She could:
-Warn you from danger or give a tip. Might not be too suitable here.
-Help clear or open the way for you in levels where one person can't get through alone.
-Rescue you from a sticky situation in which you find yourself in dire straits or even helpless. A trap, becoming surrounded in a threatening way, being attacked when you're unequipped, a self-destructing boss, a mistake or a fall, whatever (ending spoiler: you've done this once with Kazuma). Generally there are tons of tropes and cliches that could be used and you can also reverse them - you could save her, instead, from a trap, cage, impeding death, whatever. In the original after the Core she actually saves you then you immediately save her.
-Instead of her holding the fort being akin to being Put On A Bus, I suppose she could actually defend the humans/mimigas during an attack, disaster or other problem. You could play as her or have a cutscene.
Of course, I'm thinking this in general and open-ended terms as to what could be done, not as based on Cave Story and past conventions/mods/etc, and just a few such additions could be enough to make her feel like she doesn't stand around for most of the game, Jenka's Nightmare might not be itself anymore if too much of that is implemented, anyway. Some suggestions could also fit to the original game, or a prequel or another mod.
The original game gives Curly a smaller role and less presence, which could admittedly be why she is on screen and standing in place less often, because she's simply not around at all. You might be able to make it better by having her away doing something off-screen, instead of somewhere where you can see her standing around 100% of the time.
The speaking and narration roles you've given Curly are pretty great, though, and important because Quote doesn't talk... on-screen, anyway... subverting that is an idea to consider, although it is comedic that he "talks" in "..."s.
The above can apply to other characters, such as Balrog, Misery and others, Curly is not unique here, although she is your partner... and in the finale, more.
Balrog is also supposed to be your friend and apparently has some useful abilities in the original game, now that he's your ally they are handwaved and I guess the only thing he does is move Quote's unconscious body a few meters. And comic relief.
About the Spur, I know, I've read about that, sorry. I think you did good making it slower by default, by the way, as well as stuff like makign the Blade a bit shorter range. Good job on balancing efforts.
I meant I imagined the secret item changing the charging time and wanted to confirm it. Probably just a different subjective experience post-marathoning the challenege and all that.
