Cave Story for Sega Mega Drive/Genesis

The genesis has more power, while the SNES has better visuals. Quite frankly the SNES would have to make severe compromises just to make the game work because it can't support the number of sprites on screen that CS requires. The genesis is the better fit because it compromises less.

 

The genesis has more power, while the SNES has better visuals. Quite frankly the SNES would have to make severe compromises just to make the game work because it can't support the number of sprites on screen that CS requires. The genesis is the better fit because it compromises less.

Do you think that if it were to take advantage of the Super FX 2, a SNES port of Cave Story could work better?


Also, once this port is completed (or at least fully playable from start to finish) I might make a fake commercial for this, in the style of older SEGA ads, that outright boasts about how much action is on screen.

 

This looks awesome, when can we play it?

 

This looks awesome, when can we play it?

Now, you can find a link to compiled releases on the GitHub page. Currently, the game goes up to the ironhead fight.

 

I'm not sure, but I think the engine Cave Story uses was built off of a SNES. (Or at least a Super Famicom)

 

I'm not sure, but I think the engine Cave Story uses was built off of a SNES. (Or at least a Super Famicom)

Do you have the source for this? I'm pretty sure it was built from scratch on PC, though.

 

Do you have the source for this? I'm pretty sure it was built from scratch on PC, though.

I thought I read about it somewhere a while ago...

 

I'm not sure, but I think the engine Cave Story uses was built off of a SNES. (Or at least a Super Famicom)

No, the engine was built from scratch.

 

No, the engine was built from scratch.

Oh...well, the more ya' know I guess lol

 

I thought I read about it somewhere a while ago...

Someone was more than likely comparing it to SNES games, or that it was inspired by the SNES, rather than saying that it was built from the SNES or whatever. Especially given that Cave Story ignores SNES limitations.

 

Especially given that Cave Story ignores SNES limitations.

Just curious, in what ways does it ignore SNES limitations?

 

Just curious, in what ways does it ignore SNES limitations?

It throws more objects at the screen than the SNES can handle, and it updates everything on the map (both on and off the screen) every single frame.

The Megadrive is built to handle a much larger number of objects onscreen than the SNES, and the port still needs creative concessions in order to not exceed that.

 

I might make a fake commercial for this, in the style of older SEGA ads

Almost like that one Sonic Mania commercial that parodies the Sonic 2 commercial.

 

Do you think that if it were to take advantage of the Super FX 2, a SNES port of Cave Story could work better?

The SA-1 chip (basically an enhanced SNES CPU as an expansion chip) might lift some of the processing weight off the SNES, but even then, that's a definite maybe.

 

Is it not possible to load in the objects in the actual screen and not outside? Maybe then it's possible on the SNES.

 

Is it not possible to load in the objects in the actual screen and not outside? Maybe then it's possible on the SNES.

That might work but wouldn't that turn the game into Ninja Gaiden Story?

 

Is it not possible to load in the objects in the actual screen and not outside? Maybe then it's possible on the SNES.

That's a minor detail and quite possible to program around.

This is the major hurdle:

It throws more objects at the screen than the SNES can handle

I am talking about onscreen objects there, not offscreen.

 

That's a minor detail and quite possible to program around.

This is the major hurdle:

I am talking about onscreen objects there, not offscreen.

Objects? Do you mean the parts of the "map", or the enemies? If it's the enemies, then just look at Super Mario World, I'm pretty sure Cave Story doesn't have more enemies than SMW. I don't know how the SNES works, so what is exactly an object there?

 

Actually, scratch that, I'm wrong and have been wrong all this time. It turns out that the snes can actually support more objects onscreen, it just is a much slower system (in terms of processing speed).

So I suppose it is possible to make it work using the SFX chip to make up for the slow processing speed of the snes.

Objects? Do you mean the parts of the "map", or the enemies? If it's the enemies, then just look at Super Mario World, I'm pretty sure Cave Story doesn't have more enemies than SMW. I don't know how the SNES works, so what is exactly an object there?

Sprites effectively. So that's enemies, npcs, exp crystals, pickups, bullets, projectiles, certain effects (like the head bump, question mark, zzz, and particles), and the player.

 

Actually, scratch that, I'm wrong and have been wrong all this time. It turns out that the snes can actually support more objects onscreen, it just is a much slower system (in terms of processing speed).

So I suppose it is possible to make it work using the SFX chip to make up for the slow processing speed of the snes.


Sprites effectively. So that's enemies, npcs, exp crystals, pickups, bullets, projectiles, certain effects (like the head bump, question mark, zzz, and particles), and the player.

Aha, I see. But as you said, it can handle more sprites, so it is possible.
Someone get working on this o.O