Fine, force me to explain the whole damn thing. About the "all the noobs see it, and it must be good" thing, that was GIR who said that. A lot of that, really, was said by GIR. Now open your fucking brain and think while you read this:
I will admit that the assembly hacking is pretty fancy, albeit a tad pointless and without any real worth. The art isn't good. It's fair, maybe alright, but not good. The story is clear from the beginning and does not falter from the initial idea, as well as poorly written, planned, and even thought-of. The ideas are just ripped from everyone else, but not in the "using other people's helpful ideas" as "imposing and looking bad." Don't tell me that I'm the only one who thinks so because you've tried that in the past and been banned for it. No one cares enough to post about it. I talk to enough of the forums outside of this fucking argument.
It's not a clever mod, it's not an aesthetically pleasing mod, and it's not a well-written mod. The only attraction is the assembly hacks. Why is he making random assembly when he could use that talent to assist in bettering other things, hm? Surely there are many modders in need of such talents. GIR is definitely a fairly good modder, but he doesn't excel in any of these other areas.
Ralren, for example, isn't very good at coming up with all of these good things, but he is open to ideas and is a very good artist. This makes him able to use other people's skills to assist him in his modding, making it a larger project than just a one-man ordeal. The problem I have with GIR is that he isn't a great artist and isn't open to different ways of thinking. He could easily improve in these areas, but he's just too stubborn to trouble himself with it. I'm sure a lot of other people could use their own in conjunction with his talents to make a masterpiece, but, again, he's too stubborn to use his codes for something other than his own "sort of alright" mod.
In short: the only reason I don't like the mods of Noxid and GIR are because of their inability to see greater possibilities.
Oh, and just so you know, you started this argument trying to disagree with us about our views of the other modders, throwing accusations of jealousy and ignorance. You didn't realize that this whole thing started because Ralren was leaving the forums and GIR didn't want him to. GIR gave all of the wrong reasons and provoked Ralren, only giving him more reason to leave. GIR DID SOMETHING GENUINELY WRONG IN TRYING TO SWAY RALREN'S OPINION USING METHODS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN SHOWN TO BE INEFFECTIVE TOWARDS HIM. HE DOESN'T LEARN AND IS CAUSING RALREN TO WANT TO LEAVE THE FORUMS. YOU DON'T LISTEN. YOU ARE NOT ONLY NOT A PART OF THIS, BUT THIS CONVERSATION NEVER HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH MODS, OPINIONS, OR ANYTHING OF THE LIKE.