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Aug 22, 2014 at 6:19 PM
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Edit: oh god this old post of mine is so cringy I've got to edit it out

Original question was if Quote's face from Cave Story+ is allowed to be used in mods, basically.
 
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Aug 22, 2014 at 7:44 PM
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Dude millions of other people have used Quote's face and edited it a shit ton
it's fine to use it :\
 
Aug 22, 2014 at 9:03 PM
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Well, if I remember correctly, it's not legal to distribute unaltered CS+ exclusive graphics in a mod. I believe if you edited the Quote facepic, it would be okay.
 
Aug 22, 2014 at 9:35 PM
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change a single pixel in the facepic

now it's yours
 
Aug 22, 2014 at 10:20 PM
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What does 'resizing it to fit' count as? I'm pretty sure I'm not in jail yet.
 
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It really isn't that big of a deal. There won't be an FBI agent at your door or anything. At most Nicalis will email you and tell you to get rid of the image. So yes, technically it is illegal unless you alter it in any way. At all. Your not selling the mod, are you? Because if you do, that would be a LOT more illegal.
 
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change a single pixel in the facepic

now it's yours
technically you would have to change the image by 30%. How the fuck you measure that is something I have no clue about. Though halving the resolution and cleaning it up might be a good start.Change the background color, and some tones too maybe?
 
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HyMyNameIsMatt said:
technically you would have to change the image by 30%. How the fuck you measure that is something I have no clue about. Though halving the resolution and cleaning it up might be a good start.Change the background color, and some tones too maybe?
Tbh cleaning a resized image will alter about 30% at least anyway
 
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Resizing pixel art is not as easy as it looks. But if it is 30 percent bigger or smaller, I assume that it is fine. You could also change the background or slightly change the character's main colors by an rgb of like...1
 
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funwillfunwill said:
You are not selling the mod, are you?
No, we are not selling the mod.


Ok, we will find the way to change it for 30%...
 
Aug 23, 2014 at 1:59 PM
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funwillfunwill said:
Resizing pixel art is not as easy as it looks. But if it is 30 percent bigger or smaller, I assume that it is fine. You could also change the background or slightly change the character's main colors by an rgb of like...1
But still, if the art's resized you'll want to clean it up to make it look not rubbish, which will mean you'll probably end up changing more than 30%
 
Aug 23, 2014 at 2:12 PM
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Uh sorry but that's complete bullshit. If you change a copyrighted work in such a way that it is still possible to infer that it does come from the original piece, then you're stealing.
Actually, if you use/change a copyrighted, or not licensed, work in any way without the consent of the author(s), you're stealing. Period. It's just that, if no one can guess that the final product came from a copyrighted work, you're less likely to get caught.
 
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Uh sorry but that's complete bullshit. If you change a copyrighted work in such a way that it is still possible to infer that it does come from the original piece, then you're stealing.
Actually, if you use/change a copyrighted, or not licensed, work in any way without the consent of the author(s), you're stealing. Period. It's just that, if no one can guess that the final product came from a copyrighted work, you're less likely to get caught.
That would mean every mod that's made or copied the similar sprite would be breaking the law, because you can infer it came from the original piece. Also, I'm not too sure what cave story's copyright is, but I know it's copyrighted by nicalis only on cs+, and pixel on the freeware version.

why is it copyrighted by nicalis he did barely anything.
 
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Nicalis is a company.


Also, the name of this thread could become a dance song: "Do The Copyright Thing!"
 
Aug 24, 2014 at 7:17 AM
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funwillfunwill said:
Nicalis is a company.


Also, the name of this thread could become a dance song: "Do The Copyright Thing!"
I know :P
 
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Reddeh Le Steddeh said:
That would mean every mod that's made or copied the similar sprite would be breaking the law, because you can infer it came from the original piece.
Yes. Exactly. Glad you came to that understanding.


Reddeh Le Steddeh said:
Also, I'm not too sure what cave story's copyright is, but I know it's copyrighted by nicalis only on cs+, and pixel on the freeware version.
And the Quote sprite we are talking about does come from CS+.
 
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Hiino said:
Yes. Exactly. Glad you came to that understanding.


And the Quote sprite we are talking about does come from CS+.
Yeah. However, what if you made a quote sprite using only original sprite as a base and it happens to look like the CS+?
What would happen there?
 
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