Normal Modding

Gaajashin · Jul 15, 2009

This sucks.

How do I create a new .exe from scratch?
Is it even possible?
Because for some gay reason my Cave Story is effed up after I delete a map or so.

Uncy Dave · Jul 15, 2009

You need to know about programming if you wanna create a new exe from scratch...

Lace · Jul 15, 2009

what editor are you using

Gaajashin · Jul 15, 2009

Lace said:
what editor are you using

Cave Editor, Sue's workshop's not as advanced.

And for Uncle, can like anyone send me a Doukutsu.exe with all unnecessary maps deleted? As in, don't delete Null, u or the essential maps.

Metalogz · Jul 15, 2009

Gaajashin said:
Cave Editor, Sue's workshop's not as advanced.

You can't really say that Sue's Workshop isn't as advanced. It just doesn't have unnecessary functions. Those extra stuff that Cave Editor can do can also be done manually through a hex editor.

I might add that it's more stable too, if you ask me

Gaajashin said:
after I iz deletion of some mapz in Cave Storeh, M31N CAVE STORY IZ EFFED UP HALP!11!1!

Eh... how is it effed up? You might have deleted the starting map, so if it crashed, it's because the start point is non-existent in this case.

Gaajashin · Jul 15, 2009

Metalogz said:
You can't really say that Sue's Workshop isn't as advanced. It just doesn't have unnecessary functions. Those extra stuff that Cave Editor can do can also be done manually through a hex editor.

I might add that it's more stable too, if you ask me

Eh... how is it effed up? You might have deleted the starting map, so if it crashed, it's because the start point is non-existent in this case.

It says 'Doukutsu.exe is not a valid Win32 application.'

I deleted the first few map from the bottom until u (Kings), is there any special maps in there?

Metalogz · Jul 15, 2009

Gaajashin said:
It says 'Doukutsu.exe is not a valid Win32 application.'

I deleted the first few map from the bottom until u (Kings), is there any special maps in there?

OOOOOOOOOoooh.

That only happens to me when I open a .exe that has been edited via Resource Hacker.

How about trying Sue's Workshop?

Gaajashin · Jul 15, 2009

Metalogz said:
OOOOOOOOOoooh.

That only happens to me when I open a .exe that has been edited via Resource Hacker.

How about trying Sue's Workshop?

Are you using the v0.2 with Deluxe package?

Or the 0.5 Alpha by ProfEich?

Metalogz · Jul 15, 2009

Gaajashin said:
Are you using the v0.2 with Deluxe package?

Or the 0.5 Alpha by ProfEich?

There's one that comes with the Deluxe Package?

! I neva knew!

In any case, I'm not using that one. I'm not using Sue's Workshop 0.5A either. I'm using Sue's Workshop 0.3C. (Edit: WTF THERE IZ VERSION 0.5 LEGASP?!)

The only difference between 0.3A and 0.3C is just that 0.3A reads .pbm image files ONLY, while 0.5C reads .pbm image files ONLY.

You can convert a 0.3A to 0.3C by changing the text strings ".pbm"
in Sue's Workshop.exe in a hex editor to ".bmp" and vice versa.

Mr. Fist · Jul 15, 2009

Metalogz said:
0.5A reads .pbm image files ONLY, while 0.5C reads .pbm image files ONLY.

Big difference thar.

Gaajashin · Jul 15, 2009

Metalogz said:
There's one that comes with the Deluxe Package? ! I neva knew!

In any case, I'm not using that one. I'm not using Sue's Workshop 0.5A either. I'm using Sue's Workshop 0.5C.

The only difference between 0.5A and 0.5C is just that 0.5A reads .pbm image files ONLY, while 0.5C reads .pbm image files ONLY.

You can convert a 0.5A to 0.5C by changing the text strings ".pbm"
in Sue's Workshop.exe in a hex editor to ".bmp" and vice versa.

Can I have a link for 0.5C?
PLEX.

Metalogz · Jul 15, 2009

Gaajashin said:
Can I have a link for 0.5C?
PLEX.

Search function pl0x.

Keywords I used were "Sue's Workshop"

It's on second page of Search results list btw.

Doesn't be lazy yuo. Otherwise imma no halp D:<

Celtic Minstrel · Jul 15, 2009

Gaajashin said:
How do I create a new .exe from scratch?

You don't. You just re-download Doukutsu, or, if you were not working on the original Doukutsu.exe, simply make a new copy. (You really shouldn't be modding without first making a backup anyway.)

Metalogz said:
You can't really say that Sue's Workshop isn't as advanced. It just doesn't have unnecessary functions. Those extra stuff that Cave Editor can do can also be done manually through a hex editor.

Uh, yeah, sorry, but that means it's less advanced.

Gaajashin said:
Can I have a link for 0.5C?
PLEX.

It can be found on the Cave Story site, but it's really almost identical to the 0.5A version... (which can also be found there)

EDIT: Wait, that's 0.3 not 0.5. Why is 0.5 not there? For that matter, I note that Andwhyisit tends to post all available versions of things, yet there's no 0.2 there either...

Metalogz · Jul 15, 2009

Celtic Minstrel said:
Uh, yeah, sorry, but that means it's less advanced.

Not really, seeing as it can't do anything new :/

It just makes things more convenient.

Celtic Minstrel said:
It can be found on the Cave Story site, but it's really almost identical to the 0.5A version... (which can also be found there)

EDIT: Wait, that's 0.3 not 0.5. Why is 0.5 not there? For that matter, I note that Andwhyisit tends to post all available versions of things, yet there's no 0.2 there either...

........ zomg i never realised I was talking about the wrong version

GASP! WHERES THAT 0.5 VERSION? Issit the one that SP's currently working on? The revamp of ProfEich's version? o.o?

Celtic Minstrel · Jul 15, 2009

Metalogz said:
Not really, seeing as it can't do anything new :/

It just makes things more convenient.

Exactly, so it's more advanced. (And you just said earlier that it can do new stuff – since something that requires hex-editing does not qualify as something Sue's Workshop can do.

)

Gaajashin · Jul 16, 2009

Metalogz said:
Not really, seeing as it can't do anything new :/

It just makes things more convenient.

........ zomg i never realised I was talking about the wrong version

GASP! WHERES THAT 0.5 VERSION? Issit the one that SP's currently working on? The revamp of ProfEich's version? o.o?

He released a tile44 one at here.

Metalogz · Jul 16, 2009

Celtic Minstrel said:
Exactly, so it's more advanced. (And you just said earlier that it can do new stuff – since something that requires hex-editing does not qualify as something Sue's Workshop can do. )

Ofien you iz win.

Gaajashin said:
He released a tile44 one at here.

Ohs. Thread must have been growing alot while i was away xD Guess I missed that.

Thx btw, thought I'm very much contented with 0.3C.

FOREVA!

Gaajashin · Jul 16, 2009

Metalogz said:
Ofien you iz win.

Ohs. Thread must have been growing alot while i was away xD Guess I missed that.

Thx btw, thought I'm very much contented with 0.3C.

FOREVA!

I also have to ask you, when I play my game, the character's not there although I set the player start point there.

I have 3 forcefield far beside my character's starting point and this is my script:

Code:

#0090
<MNA<CMU0008<FAI0000<END
#0091
<MNA<CMU0008<FAI0001<END
#0092
<MNA<CMU0008<FAI0002<END
#0093
<MNA<CMU0008<FAI0003<END
#0094
<MNA<CMU0008<FAI0004<END

#0100
<PRI<CNP0100:0000:0000
<SOU0011<FAO0001
<TRA0012:0091:0037:0011

#1000
<KEY<HMC<MS2             =????=<WAI0050<NOD<CLR<CLO

<KEY<MSG<TUR>...<NOD<END
#0090
<MNA<CMU0008<FAI0000<END
#0091
<MNA<CMU0008<FAI0001<END
#0092
<MNA<CMU0008<FAI0002<END
#0093
<MNA<CMU0008<FAI0003<END
#0094
<MNA<CMU0008<FAI0004<END

#0100
<PRI<CNP0100:0000:0000
<SOU0011<FAO0001
<TRA0012:0091:0037:0011

#1000
<KEY<HMC<MS2             =????=<WAI0050<NOD<CLR<CLO

<KEY<MSG<TUR>...<NOD<END

Start event is #1000.

Metalogz · Jul 16, 2009

Gaajashin said:

I also have to ask you, when I play my game, the character's not there although I set the player start point there.

I have 3 forcefield far beside my character's starting point and this is my script:

Code:

#0090
<MNA<CMU0008<FAI0000<END
#0091
<MNA<CMU0008<FAI0001<END
#0092
<MNA<CMU0008<FAI0002<END
#0093
<MNA<CMU0008<FAI0003<END
#0094
<MNA<CMU0008<FAI0004<END

#0100
<PRI<CNP0100:0000:0000
<SOU0011<FAO0001
<TRA0012:0091:0037:0011

#1000
<KEY<HMC<MS2             =????=<WAI0050<NOD<CLR<CLO

<KEY<MSG<TUR>...<NOD<END
#0090
<MNA<CMU0008<FAI0000<END
#0091
<MNA<CMU0008<FAI0001<END
#0092
<MNA<CMU0008<FAI0002<END
#0093
<MNA<CMU0008<FAI0003<END
#0094
<MNA<CMU0008<FAI0004<END

#0100
<PRI<CNP0100:0000:0000
<SOU0011<FAO0001
<TRA0012:0091:0037:0011

#1000
<KEY<HMC<MS2             =????=<WAI0050<NOD<CLR<CLO

<KEY<MSG<TUR>...<NOD<END

Start event is #1000.

>.>...

In event #1000..
1) There isn't a <FAI, hence the map can't fade in
2) You used a <HMC after the <KEY, but didn't put a <SMC after that. <HMC is "Hide My Character"; you gotta add a <SMC "Show My Character" somewhere after the <HMC to make your character visible again.
3) Err... "<KEY<MSG<TUR>...<NOD<END" Why iz thar a > infront of <TUR?

Unless it's part of the text to be shown.

Gaajashin · Jul 16, 2009

Metalogz said:
>.>...

In event #1000..
1) There isn't a <FAI, hence the map can't fade in
2) You used a <HMC after the <KEY, but didn't put a <SMC after that. <HMC is "Hide My Character"; you gotta add a <SMC "Show My Character" somewhere after the <HMC to make your character visible again.
3) Err... "<KEY<MSG<TUR>...<NOD<END" Why iz thar a > infront of <TUR? Unless it's part of the text to be shown.

I just needed the SMC part.

All the other script were just jotten down anyhow. thanks! Now I can finally work in 0.3A.