Ever noticed...

1)...that you can trade back the Nemesis for the Blade?

On that note, last time I kept Blade (and Polar Star) for the whole game. I wasn't so much aiming for minimalist run but the Blade works pretty well against later forms of Ballos, regardless of the level.

2)...that until you fight Misery and Doctor, you can go back from Balcony back to Plantation and the rest of the game?

You need to drop perfectly center to get past the Press trap.

 

1) Yes.
2) Yes. The Last Cave is fun backwards.

 

You need to drop perfectly center to get past the Press trap.

I don't know if I'm thinking right now, but what Press Trap are you talking about?

 

I don't know if I'm thinking right now, but what Press Trap are you talking about?

The ones that are sideways in the Plantation. Also, I'm pretty sure most people who come here know both those things. I dislike going through Last Cave backwards. :l

 

The ones that are sideways in the Plantation. Also, I'm pretty sure most people who come here know both those things. I dislike going through Last Cave backwards. :l

Thanks.
And yes agreed, most of us know that. I was suprised you didn't get a wind when you go backwards, though.

 

i'm not. take a second to think about how the game works, and you wouldn't be either.

 

i'm not. take a second to think about how the game works, and you wouldn't be either.

k? I thought mabye Pixel would do this to increase the difficulty of the Last Cave, and I thought if mabye you came in one way and you got the wind, you would get it the other way, too. Now is that so bad?

 

Do-able, but care-able?

k? I thought mabye Pixel would do this to increase the difficulty of the Last Cave, and I thought if mabye you came in one way and you got the wind, you would get it the other way, too. Now is that so bad?

No, you're just not understanding him.
He's talking about how the game was made, as in, it was never designed to be played backwards.
There can't be a black wind if the event isn't even there.
Pixel either didn't expect people to walk through the cave backwards {Doubt it}, didn't want to cause the black wind to replay itself everytime you entered the Last Cave, or simply didn't care {Probably}.
Why bother with the extra work when they're not even suppose to do that in the first place?

 

Extra work?

Copy-pasting
<ZAM<MSGYou feel a black wind blow through
you!<NOD<CLRAll weapons dropped to level 1!<NOD<EVE0091

Doesn't seem like much work. Heck, I just typed that without consulting the script.

And I would argue that his choice to let you go back through Last Cave was very intentional. If he didn't want people to go back, he would have locked the door.

The cave is specifically designed to be easier towards the beginning with your level 1 weapons, and harder towards the end when your guns are leveled. Bringing the weapons back down to level 1 at the end would not only be cruel to the player, but also bad game design.

 

Extra work?

Copy-pasting
<ZAM<MSGYou feel a black wind blow through
you!<NOD<CLRAll weapons dropped to level 1!<NOD<EVE0091

Doesn't seem like much work. Heck, I just typed that without consulting the script.

And I would argue that his choice to let you go back through Last Cave was very intentional. If he didn't want people to go back, he would have locked the door.

Pixel either didn't expect people to walk through the cave backwards {Doubt it}, didn't want to cause the black wind to replay itself everytime you entered the Last Cave, or simply didn't care {Probably}.

I didn't say it was all three. Nor did I say that the work alone was a problem, just that it'd be more effort for something he probably wouldn't care about.
You even ended up repeating what I said...

The cave is specifically designed to be easier towards the beginning with your level 1 weapons, and harder towards the end when your guns are leveled. Bringing the weapons back down to level 1 at the end would not only be cruel to the player, but also bad game design.

He's talking about how the game was made, as in, it was never designed to be played backwards.

 

Locking the door to the Last Cave after you leave would have been a poor design decision, simply because, realistically, there's no reason the door would just randomly lock after you exit it. Of course, often in video games, some realism is sacrificed to avoid game-breaking sequence breaks and such, but going backwards through the Last Cave, while basically useless, has no potential to break the game, so there's no real reason to prohibit it.

And I actually didn't know either of those things until now; never bothered to check.

 

And I actually didn't know either of those things until now; never bothered to check.

I didnt either.

 

This thread has made me want a mod of Cave Story where you play the entire thing backwards.

 

This thread has made me want a mod of Cave Story where you play the entire thing backwards.

If you play Cave Story backwards, it's about an island that rises from the ground and forms a doctor out of red energy who slowly fills an empty village with rabbit people.

 

This thread has made me want a mod of Cave Story where you play the entire thing backwards.

Spoiler alert, quote falls asleep at the end.

 

Spoiler alert, quote falls asleep at the end.

First he gives some old guy a gun so he can protect himself. He needed it more, after all. But then he goes and disassembles it! Stupid old people...