ACTA: The Secret Copyright Treaty

Guys, you might want to read this: http://www.boingboing.net/2009/11/03/secret-copyright-tre.html

This, I'd never stand for such a thing. This sort of crap really pisses me off. Absolutely freaking ridiculous.

 

I love how they're trying to put it in effect everywhere.

 

The Impossible Taming

I love how they're trying to put it in effect everywhere.

That the whole world must adopt US-style "notice-and-takedown" rules

That does sound a little pushy....
I know what they're trying to achieve is good, but wrongs don't make a right.
The power to completely cut off an entire family from the Internet just because of a sole person was accused of copyright infringement? And without a single trial?
But, I'm pretty sure there are enough people with brains to know that this can't possibly work.
I've got to know what's going on in the heads of these guys who make these things up...

 

god if this goes through im screwed

 

Sounds like traffic laws.

 

Still better than trying to censor the entire internet with a half-assed filtering system like they're trying to do here because "PROTECTING THE CHILDREN" looks good on paper. There's a real fix to that, it's called "DECENT PARENTING".

 

we are the dead

 

We can still keep the stuff already on our computer, right? Or pass things around by hand?

 

Well this sucks...

Will this mean YTP's will be gone?

 

http://www.michaelgeist.ca/index.php

This is apparantly the source for this info. Significant tidbits:

Spoiler

extend criminal enforcement to both (1) cases of a commercial nature; and (2) cases involving significant willful copyright and trademark infringement even where there is no direct or indirect motivation of financial gain. In other words, non-commercial infringement could lead to criminal penalties

^Oh, joy.

each country would be required to establish a laundry list of penalties - including imprisonment - sufficient to deter future acts of infringement.

^Penalties are somewhat under the control of countries involved, but they've got to "fit the bill" so to speak.

trafficking in fake packaging for movies or music would become a criminal act.

^So, no Fire, you can't pass around what you already have.

Criminalization of unauthorized camcording:

^Um, what?

there are full chapters on civil enforcement (including mandatory statutory damages) and border measures (including blocking shipments and new search powers).

^Just what we need. "We don't need a warrant, I can see your computer from here"

A requirement to establish third-party liability for copyright infringement.

3. Restrictions on limitations to 3rd party liability (ie. limited safe harbour rules for ISPs). For example, in order for ISPs to qualify for a safe harbour, they would be required establish policies to deter unauthorized storage and transmission of IP infringing content.

^That means that the ISP is liable as well unless they qualify for whatever standards they set up for enforcement I guess?

My favourite line is this:

a day devoted to secret talks on transparency

Politicians are funny

EDIT: Oh, and as for my thoughts, this is so downright retarded that there's no way it'll pass. I'm pretty sure you can't enforce the internet, unless you live in some kind of closed-system totalitarian regime.

 

Criminalization of unauthorized camcording:

Huh...

Missed that little tidbit.

Well, in short, it's impossible. Ruling the internet is done by only one way.

Destroying it.




Really, none of this sounds logical, it holds about as much ground as the ol' "video games create killers" (or something along those lines), statement, which is rather ridiculous.

I do hope this damn thing dies. And that the idiots that thought it was possible are hung.

 

You mean like our President, many government officials around the world, many corporations, such as Google... Yeah, Cyo, that's a good idea. Throw the whole planet into chaos.

 

Fire, the WHOLE DAMN THING is about COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT.

Now, who would want this? CORPORATIONS w/ lawyers!

As logic dictates, who would die, the government officials or the corporate executives?

 

I still can't get over the "each country" bit. I mean, there is no way they can force foreign countries to accept this bullshit. Well, maybe some of them, but definitely not the whole world.

 

And that the idiots that thought it was possible are hung.

It was the government's idea. They'd both die.

 

Welll, let them die.

EU Go!

 

No, EU can go to hell, too.
Still, dismissing this load of bullcrap may not be as easy as you all think. All the copyrights groups will do their best to get the treaty accepted, and we all know what they're capable of. Also, I get the feeling that this is just a hoax, but I don't want to risk it being real.

 

Your mom can go to hell.

We have Pirates.
You have nothing.
We can fight.
You will loose.

Owned bitches.
Owned.

 

We all need to find out how to set up a closed network we could share with the people close to us (physically, I mean. Like, neighbors, coworkers, and they could spread it).

Even if this thing's a hoax, we've still got a cool little network thing.

 

Eh.
The entire concept of a copyright always bugged me.
If you don't want it "stolen", don't make it available to the public.
And nothing is really "stolen" when it comes to virtual media, as it's always just a copy.
Well, I suppose some greedy executive doesn't get his nickle from a potential sale, but still.
When it comes down to it, my personal belief is that anything available to the public via the internet should be free.
Of course, the line blurs when it's a piece of software (something sold in stores).
But even then, if someone was REALLY motivated, they could make a similar program/game/whatever, or hell, improve it.
Without even so much as the source of the original.
A challenge, yes, but someone made Open Office, didn't they?
Aswell as all that, I believe that the part about denying your family the internet because your kid downloaded a game illegally would be a violation of your human rights, according to the UN.
But hey, since when has a little violation of human rights stopped the US?
(I'm hoping the UN enacts that globally. When the world goes digital, it becomes a smaller place that's closer to home.)

But yeah, my 2.6 cents.